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Subject: r.g.c.c. repost DEATH TO FEN. Was:Re: PGN versus EPD - a battle to the

Author: Danniel Corbit

Date: 10:57:50 09/30/98


Komputer Korner wrote in message
<_mtQ1.3112$YP5.6180700@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>...
>Since PGN files can contain an unlimited number of FEN positions with
>the FEN tag, what do we need the EPD format for? Any programmer can
>easily code a menu for analyzing test suites in his program by reading
>these test suites as a collection of FEN positions inside a PGN file.
>So I ask again why does the world need EPD? If EPD gives no advantage
>over PGN with FEN tags, then I say chuck EPD and use PGN/FEN. What say
>you world?  Oh I forgot, there is one advantage and that is that an
>EPD formatted file is much smaller than PGN/FEN. Is this the only
>advantage?

I have changed my mind about EPD.  I used to think it was without value, but
now I work with it almost exclusively!
Where is the annotation in FEN for the best possible move?
Where is the annotation in FEN for the moves to avoid?
Where is the annotation in FEN for depth of study in plies?
Where is the annotation in FEN for nodes analyzed?

I do think the tag that holds the time spent is a waste of time.  Who cares?
Here is a fragment from an opening book I am working on {this fragment was
done on a slow machine}:

N1bk1b1r/p2pq2p/1pnn2p1/3Qpp2/8/1B6/PPPP1PPP/R1B1K1NR w KQ - acd 13; acn
55907629; acs 1501; ce 356; pv Qd3 Bb7 Nxb6 axb6 Ne2 Nb4 Qh3 Ke8 O-O Be4 Qc3
Nd5;

N1bk1b1r/pp1pq2p/2nn2p1/3Qpp2/8/1B6/PPPP1PPP/R1B1K1NR b KQ - acd 12; acn
56880805; acs 1500; ce -355; pv b6 Ne2 Nb4 Qf3 Bb7 Qc3 Nb5 Qc4 Bxa8 Qxb5
Bxg2;

N1bk2nr/pp1p1ppp/2n5/8/1b6/5B1q/PPPN1P1P/R1BQK2R b KQ - acd 11; acn
57248050; acs 1500; ce -276; pv Nf6 Be2 Re8 a3 Nd4 axb4 Rxe2+ Qxe2 Nxc2+ Kd1
Nxa1 Rg1 g6;

N1bk3r/pp1p1ppp/2n2n2/8/1b6/5B1q/PPPN1P1P/R1BQK2R w KQ - acd 11; acn
59647218; acs 1501; ce 121; pv Be2 Ng4 Rf1 Nxh2 c3 Re8 Rh1 Nf3+ Nxf3 Qxh1+
Kd2 Qxd1+ Kxd1 Bc5 Bc4 f5;

N1bk3r/pp1p1ppp/2n2n2/8/1b6/P4B1q/1PPN1P1P/R1BQK2R b KQ - acd 11; acn
66804351; acs 1500; ce -41; pv Re8+ Be2 Nd4 axb4 Qg2 Rf1 Qf3 Ne4 Qxe4 Kd2
Qxe2+ Kc3;

How will you do this with FEN?  Here is my 180 degree turn (I used to like
FEN):  FEN sucks.  I hate FEN.  Death is too good for FEN.  Down with FEN.
Destroy FEN.  Get rid of it.  No, really.
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