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Subject: Re: Presenting of Results in Statistics

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 04:36:06 02/15/03

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On February 15, 2003 at 07:24:22, Uri Blass wrote:

>On February 15, 2003 at 07:18:22, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
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>>On February 15, 2003 at 05:11:09, Andreas Schwartmann wrote:
>>
>>>On February 14, 2003 at 07:10:40, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>We are told that for instance the two first programs are seperated by 8 points.
>>>>No matter Stefan get all the credits here for his first place. But is true that
>>>>Shredder is stronger than Fritz?
>>>>
>>>>Here I must tell you that we simply don't know it. The SSDF pretend to know it,
>>>
>>>False. The SSDF simply states that Shredder is #1 in its recent ranking list.
>>>Nothing more, nothing less. What you make of it, is up to you.
>>
>>Wrong. What you call SSDF simply states, exactly this is object of my critic. In
>>fact I say that SSDF cannot state (on the base of its _own_ results!) that
>>Shredder 7 is number one. Nothing more nothing less.
>>
>>Rolf Tueschen
>
>They can state that Shredder7 is number 1 in the rating list.
>They did not state that shredder7 is better than Deep Fritz7.
>
>There is a difference between these claims and I expect intelligent people to
>understand.

Uri,
it would help a lot if you would take a look into some stats readers. I am not
inventing opinions, I am talking about simple basics, laymen often forget. That
is also why it is not possible to adopt a certain routine out of the context of
a whole method and then do some calculations and whoopie preseting the winner. I
repeat the actual results - given in the list itself  - does NOT allow to
present Shredder as number one. Also: if SSDF understood what they were doing
they had done a presentation of the sort 1.-3. are... Then Shredder could well
be named in the first place. 1.-3. Shredder, Fritz, Fritz

Rolf Tueschen




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>Uri
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