Author: Uri Blass
Date: 14:41:37 02/15/03
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On February 15, 2003 at 17:31:56, Mark Young wrote: >On February 15, 2003 at 14:10:26, John Rice wrote: > >>Based on information I have read here at CCC, and some engine matches I have >>conducted, it seems possible that DeepFritz 7 is actually a little stronger than >>Fritz 8. Does anyone else agree with my conclusion? > >Fritz 8 is the strongest program I have seen, based on the Deep Junior 8 games >with Garry Kasparov I think Fritz 8 is stronger then Deep Junior 8. > >Fritz 8's rating is stronger then the below list suggest even with Fritz 8 being >#1 in my list. Fritz 8 plays stronger at slower time controls, my list has more >fast time controls games then slow time control games. > >There is little chance that Fritz 8 will not gain the top spot on the SSDF list. > >Anyone willing to bet.:) > >1 Fritz 8 2540 291 >2 Deep Fritz 7 2508 692 >3 Fritz 7 2484 55 >4 Chess Tiger 14.0 2465 254 >5 Fritz 6 2422 49 >6 Junior 6.0 2406 134 >7 Hiarcs 7.32 2406 130 >8 Gambit Tiger 2.0 2387 67 >9 Ruffian 1.0.1 2377 150 >10 Fritz 5.32 2368 61 >11 Ruffian 1.0.0 2357 67 >12 Aristarch 4.4 2341 153 >13 Crafty 19.01 2336 124 >14 Crafty 18.15 2336 106 >15 Junior 5.0 2325 45 >16 Amyan 1.54 2257 48 >17 Pepito v1.55 2255 46 >18 Sjeng 12.13 2239 37 >19 Yace 0.99.56 2232 46 >20 SOS.2 for Arena 2226 37 >21 Comet B48 2224 37 >22 Pharaon 2.62 2215 49 >23 Little Goliath 2000 v3.8 2203 37 >24 AnMon5.21 2201 37 >25 Nejmet_3.05 2170 41 >26 Comet B54 2166 25 >27 Queen 2.32 2162 37 >28 Doctor? 3.0 2154 37 >29 Abrok 2.0821 2134 36 >30 Monarch 2002-04c 2099 37 >31 EXchess 4.03 2083 50 >32 InmiChess3.06N 2069 38 >33 Faile 1.4.4 2013 50 >34 Hagrid 0.7.56 1995 38 >35 EnginMax 5.11c 1859 13 >36 BigLion 1844 50 >37 EnginMax UCI 4.72d 1741 37 >38 BamBam 1690 37 Something seem wrong with the list. I know that Hagrid0.7.56 is clearly better than faile based on results in Leo's tournaments but for some reason faile has better rating. I know that the number of games that they played is small but even if I give both programs to play against the same opponents I expect Hagrid to do convincingly better than faile and the only explanation that I can find is if most of the opponents of them are very strong opponents so 0 against strong opponents is compared with 0 against strong opponents but this is not a good way to generate rating list and it is better to give programs opponents that are at similiar level. Uri
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