Author: Chris Carson
Date: 03:36:34 02/16/03
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On February 16, 2003 at 01:22:11, Jorge Pichard wrote: >On February 15, 2003 at 19:46:30, Chris Carson wrote: > >>On February 15, 2003 at 19:34:26, Jorge Pichard wrote: >> >>>If you consider that it took Deep Junior a Quad 1.9 GHz or 8 x 1.6 GHz to get a >>>draw score against Kasparov, then it is reasonable to suspect that Shredder 7 >>>can NOT possibly get a SSDF of 2768 on a mere 1.2 GHz. Either the SSDF adjust >>>its rating by droping another 50 points or it is time to get an Athlon XP 2400+ >>>to justify its inflated rating system. >>> >>> THE SSDF RATING LIST 2003-02-13 90961 games played by 251 computers >>> Rating + - Games Won Oppo >>> ------ --- --- ----- --- ---- >>> 1 Shredder 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2768 33 -31 547 72% 2606 >>> 2 Deep Fritz 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2760 29 -28 654 70% 2612 >>> >>> >>>Pichard >> >>Human (FIDE Rated) vs Computer (Match and Tournament) >> >> Opp >> TPR ELO W D L Tot >>C. Tiger 14 P3 866 MHz 2788 2497 8 3 0 11 >>CMaster 8K P3 700 MHz 2750 2350 2 0 0 2 >> >>Slower HW? How can that be? >> >>Best Regards, >>Chris Carson > > >When Chess Tiger 14 played against humans back in Argentina, the humans GMs >according to them never played against the beast. If you match them again using >a P4 3.06 GHz, you will NOT notice much of a difference, even using CT 15.0 >against the same group of GMs from Argentina. > >Pichard I would agree that preparation (say a few months) and match play (say 6 games, short and plenty of time for the human to rest between games) will increase the performance of the GM's. However, for tournament play (not match) the SSDF is a good rating. For match play, the SSDF is about 100 points over (this is rough, could be higher of lower depending on the preparation and style of the human GM). This is also true for humans. Even Bobby Fisher had a loosing record against some in match play (Byrne comes to mind). The SSDF does a good job for establishing ELO for the comps, this ELO can be compared to Tournament play against FIDE rated Human's (FM, IM, GM). For match play other variables such as preparation, experience, match length and style can increase the performance of the human (reduce the performance of the comp) by about 100 points. Just my take. Best Regards, Chris Carson
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