Author: Uri Blass
Date: 05:19:08 02/16/03
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On February 16, 2003 at 07:23:29, Frank Phillips wrote: >On February 16, 2003 at 07:10:34, Uri Blass wrote: > > >> >>The gap between the best programs and part of the free programs programs is more >>than 500 elo on equal hardware. > >Can you point to the data source that supports this claim. > 500 seems a bigger >gap that indicated by SDF and ICC. There are a lot of rating list The gap between the best free programs and another part of the free programs is also more than 500 elo. Look at the following list http://www.digichess.gr/infiniteloop/ratings/rapid_rating_il2r.txt Crafty17.9 2672 Movei0.07a 2052 Movei0.07a(my old program) is not extremely weak and it is more closer to the top than to the bottom that is LaMoSca 0.10 1183 I said that the gap between the best programs and part of te free programs is more than 500 elo. I did not talk about the best free programs. > >> >>Hardware that is 100 times faster will not be enough to compensate for that >>difference. >> >>We do not know what was the level of the software of deeper blue because it >>never played games on equal hardware. > >Why should it have to play on equal hardware? It was designed to a different >paradigm. If people use the speed of it as a reason to convince people that it was better than we need some information about it's level on equal hardware. > >> >>I also doubt the claim that the hardware was 100 times faster and we have no >>proof for the number of nodes that it searched(200M nodes could be a >>psychological war against kasparov when the real number was only 20M). >> >>Uri > >I wish IBM (or someone) would fund Hsu's next chip. Then we would finally be >able to answer these questions Of course, some would then deny the facts if >they did not fit their expectations ;-) No It can only prove in the best case for Hsu that Hsu is capable to do a chip that is better than the top programs of today. I did not claim that he is unable to do it. It is not going to prove that DB97 is better than the top programs of today. Uri
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