Author: Tom Jones
Date: 15:37:40 09/30/98
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On September 30, 1998 at 13:43:54, John Coffey wrote: >On September 30, 1998 at 13:33:13, Komputer Korner wrote: > >>On September 30, 1998 at 03:46:38, Shaun Graham wrote: >> >>>On September 30, 1998 at 01:13:32, Jouni Uski wrote: >>> >>>>On September 30, 1998 at 00:35:13, Shaun Graham wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>7. Aesthetic appeal, it runs in win95-98 and has multiple boards and a very >>>>>high qaulity 3d feature(perhaps and IMHO the best 3d available) Nicest GUI >>>>>available in most people oppinion i'm sure. >>>>> >>>> >>>>Really? I found Fritz's 3D board to be like a joke - I watched it couple of >>>>seconds and it was enough... CM5000 has only real 3D board so far. >>>> >>>>Jouni >>> >>> >>>Well Bernie everyone has there own oppinion, but i think few would think >>>CM5000's bitmap image method can compare to the fritz 3d. You can find some >>>examples of what Fritz's 3d looks like on the chessbase page. >> >>I agree with Jouni. Even though the Fritz 3D has perfect rendering of shadows >>and depth, it's actual pieces are not lifelike enough. Perfect 3D should look >>like a real set of pieces and the pieces in Fritz 5 do not fit the bill. The >>best I have seen is the 3D set in CS TAL. CM 6000 comes next. >>-- >>Komputer Korner > > >I haven't seen every 3D set, but saying that perfect 3D must look totally >lifelike might not actually be the best solution. You can never get totally >lifelike because a 2D monitor does not display in 3D. In an OTB game, chances >are you would be moving your head around a lot so that you can see pieces >that are obscurred by other pieces. (A few years ago I was playing OTB >against someone with a dark brown wood set. I failed to notice that a fairly >short rook was behind a fairly large king of the same dark color. I lost >the game.) > >Another example of this are 2D pieces: Do they look totally lifelike? i.e. >I have seen sets that used 3D looking pieces on a 2D board and they look >dreadful. I would rather have a diagram that looks like it came out of >chess life. > >My point is that some representations of 3D pieces might not be the best >effect visually. The trouble I have is sometimes pieces blend togethor because >they are all the same color. The bottom line is that you want something that >looks good on 2D screen, regardless if it is "lifelike" or not. > >John Coffey I am a beginner in all of this--struggling to learn the art of chess. I have CM6000 and find the 3D confusing. Whats what and where is that line etc. So I find that I allways leave it in 2D. I have a hard enough time figuring out why I am getting crushed by the program and still have to figure out the 3D perspective. BTW I noticed that GambitSoft has Fritz 5 on sale for $58. Is this a good program for beginners. It sounds like the analysis and tree functions are very good. :-) Tom
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