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Subject: Re: What is the best move from this position?

Author: Joachim Rang

Date: 13:59:56 02/17/03

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Shredder 7 agrees with Chessmaster, that black is completely lost, but sugggests
another move:

Neue Partie
8/2pP4/kqP1Brb1/npBnRNr1/3QppP1/NpRppP1P/1PpP1bPK/8 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Shredder 7:

1...c2-c1D
  +-  (1.92)   Tiefe: 1/1   00:00:00
1...c2-c1D 2.Tc3xc1 Sa5xc6
  +-  (1.92)   Tiefe: 1/4   00:00:00
1...e3xd2 2.Tc3xc2
  ²  (0.53)   Tiefe: 1/21   00:00:00
1...e3xd2 2.d7-d8D c2-c1D 3.Lc5xb6 Lf2xd4 4.Dd8xd5
  =  (0.11)   Tiefe: 1/21   00:00:00
1...e3xd2 2.Dd4xf2 d2-d1D 3.Lc5xb6 c2-c1D 4.d7-d8D Sd5xc3 5.Dd8xf6 c7xb6
  =  (-0.10)   Tiefe: 1/26   00:00:00
1...e3xd2 2.Dd4xf2 Db6-b7 3.c6xb7
  =  (0.15)   Tiefe: 2/17   00:00:00
1...e3xd2 2.Dd4xf2 Db6-b7 3.c6xb7
  ²  (0.65)   Tiefe: 2/17   00:00:00
1...e3xd2 2.Dd4xf2 Db6-b8 3.Te5xd5 c2-c1D 4.d7-d8D Db8xd8 5.Td5xd8 Tf6xe6
6.f3xe4 d2-d1D 7.Tc3xc1 Dd1xc1 8.Td8xd3
  ±  (0.91)   Tiefe: 2/22   00:00:00
1...e3xd2 2.Dd4xf2 e4-e3 3.d7-d8D e3xf2 4.Lc5xb6 f2-f1D 5.Te5xd5
  ±  (0.79)   Tiefe: 3/33   00:00:00
1...e3xd2 2.Dd4xf2 e4-e3 3.Df2-h4 c2-c1D 4.Lc5xb6 d2-d1D 5.d7-d8D Sd5xc3
6.Dd8xf6 Lg6xf5 7.Dh4xg5 Lf5xe6 8.Te5xe6 Dd1xf3 9.g2xf3
  ±  (1.04)   Tiefe: 4/32   00:00:00
1...e3xd2 2.Dd4xf2 e4-e3 3.Df2-h4 Db6-b8 4.Te5xd5 c2-c1D 5.d7-d8D Tf6xe6
  ±  (1.04)   Tiefe: 4/32   00:00:00
1...c2-c1D 2.Tc3xc1 e3xd2 3.Dd4xd5 d2xc1D
  ±  (1.03)   Tiefe: 4/32   00:00:00
1...c2-c1D 2.Tc3xc1 e3xd2 3.Tc1-f1 Lf2xd4 4.Lc5xb6 Ld4xe5 5.d7-d8D Sd5xb6
6.f3xe4 Lg6xf5 7.g4xf5 Le5xb2
  ±  (0.75)   Tiefe: 4/32   00:00:00
1...c2-c1D 2.Tc3xc1 e3xd2 3.Tc1-f1 Lf2xd4 4.Lc5xb6 Ld4xe5 5.d7-d8D Sd5xb6
6.f3xe4 Lg6xf5 7.g4xf5 Le5xb2
  ±  (0.75)   Tiefe: 5/19   00:00:00
1...Lf2-g3+ 2.Sf5xg3 f4xg3+ 3.Kh2xg3 Sd5xc3 4.d7-d8T c2-c1D 5.Lc5xb6 e3xd2
6.Dd4xc3 Ka6xb6 7.Te5xb5+ Tg5xb5 8.Dc3xc1 d2xc1D
  ±  (0.74)   Tiefe: 5/31   00:00:00
1...Lf2-g3+ 2.Sf5xg3 f4xg3+ 3.Kh2xg3 Sd5xc3 4.Dd4xc3 c2-c1D 5.Dc3xc1 Tg5xe5
6.d7-d8D Db6xc5
  ²  (0.68)   Tiefe: 5/31   00:00:00
1...Sd5xc3 2.d7-d8T c2-c1D 3.Td8-a8+ Db6-a7
  ²  (0.67)   Tiefe: 5/32   00:00:00
1...Sd5xc3 2.d7-d8T Db6xc6 3.Td8-a8+ Dc6xa8 4.Le6-c8+ Da8xc8
  ²  (0.32)   Tiefe: 5/32   00:00:00
1...Sd5xc3 2.d7-d8D Lf2-g3+ 3.Sf5xg3 f4xg3+ 4.Kh2xg3 Sc3-e2+ 5.Kg3-h4 c2-c1D
6.Lc5xb6 Se2xd4 7.Lb6xd4 Tg5xe5 8.Dd8xf6
  =  (-0.23)   Tiefe: 5/34   00:00:00
1...Sd5xc3 2.d7-d8D Lf2-g3+ 3.Sf5xg3 f4xg3+ 4.Kh2xg3 Sc3-e2+ 5.Kg3-h4 c2-c1S
6.Lc5xb6
  =  (0.02)   Tiefe: 6/28   00:00:01
1...Sd5xc3 2.d7-d8D Lf2-g3+ 3.Sf5xg3 f4xg3+ 4.Kh2xg3 Sc3-e2+ 5.Kg3-h4 c2-c1S
6.Lc5xb6
  ²  (0.52)   Tiefe: 6/29   00:00:01
1...Sd5xc3 2.d7-d8D Lf2-g3+ 3.Sf5xg3 f4xg3+ 4.Kh2xg3 Sc3-e2+ 5.Kg3-h2 Db6xc6
6.Dd8-c8+ Dc6-b7 7.Dc8xb7+ Ka6xb7
  +-  (4.37)   Tiefe: 6/34   00:00:02
1...e3xd2 2.Dd4xf2 c2-c1D 3.Lc5xb6 Sd5xc3 4.d7-d8S d2-d1D
  +-  (4.36)   Tiefe: 6/34   00:00:03
1...e3xd2 2.d7-d8D Lf2-g3+ 3.Sf5xg3 d2-d1D 4.Lc5xb6 Dd1-h1+ 5.Kh2xh1
  +-  (4.36)   Tiefe: 6/34   00:00:04
1...c2-c1D 2.Tc3xc1 e3xd2 3.d7-d8D d2xc1D 4.Dd8xd5
  +-  (4.35)   Tiefe: 6/34   00:00:04
1...c2-c1D 2.Tc3xc1 e3xd2 3.d7-d8D Sa5xc6 4.Lc5xb6
  +-  (4.35)   Tiefe: 6/34   00:00:04
1...Lf2-g3+ 2.Sf5xg3 f4xg3+ 3.Kh2xg3 e3-e2 4.Lc5xb6 e2-e1D+ 5.Dd4-f2 De1xf2+
6.Kg3xf2 c2-c1D
  +-  (4.34)   Tiefe: 6/34   00:00:04
1...Lf2-g3+ 2.Sf5xg3 f4xg3+ 3.Kh2xg3 e3-e2 4.Lc5xb6 e2-e1D+ 5.Dd4-f2 De1xf2+
6.Kg3xf2 c2-c1D
  +-  (3.99)   Tiefe: 6/34   00:00:04
1...Lf2-g3+ 2.Sf5xg3 f4xg3+ 3.Kh2xg3 e3-e2 4.d7-d8D e2-e1D+ 5.Kg3-h2 c2-c1L
6.Lc5xb6 De1-h1+ 7.Kh2xh1
  +-  (3.99)   Tiefe: 6/34   00:00:04
1...Lf2-g1+ 2.Kh2xg1 e3xd2 3.Lc5xb6 c2-c1D+ 4.Kg1-h2 Sd5xc3 5.d7-d8D d2-d1D
6.Dd8xf6 Sa5xc6 7.Lb6xc7 Sc6xd4
  +-  (3.98)   Tiefe: 6/36   00:00:05
1...Lf2-g1+ 2.Kh2-h1 e3xd2 3.d7-d8D Db6xc6 4.Dd4xd5 Lg1xc5 5.Dd8-a8+ Dc6xa8
  +-  (3.78)   Tiefe: 6/36   00:00:06
1...Lf2-g1+ 2.Kh2-h1 e3xd2 3.d7-d8D Db6xc6 4.Dd4xd5 Lg1xc5 5.Dd8-a8+ Dc6xa8
  +-  (3.53)   Tiefe: 7/35   00:00:07  1272kN
1...Lf2-g1+ 2.Kh2-h1 e3xd2 3.d7-d8D Db6xc6 4.Dd8-c8+ Dc6-b7 5.Dc8xb7+ Sa5xb7
6.Tc3xc2 d2-d1D 7.Dd4xd5 d3xc2 8.Dd5xd1 c2xd1D
  +-  (3.07)   Tiefe: 7/37   00:00:08  1447kN
1...Lf2-g1+ 2.Kh2-h1 e3xd2 3.d7-d8D Db6xc6 4.Dd8-c8+ Dc6-b7 5.Dc8xb7+ Sa5xb7
6.Dd4xd5 Tg5xf5 7.Lc5xg1 c2-c1D 8.Tc3xc1
  +-  (3.32)   Tiefe: 8/35   00:00:12  2291kN
1...Lf2-g1+ 2.Kh2-h1 e3xd2 3.d7-d8D Db6xc6 4.Dd8-c8+ Dc6-b7 5.Dc8xb7+ Sa5xb7
6.Dd4xd5 Tg5xf5 7.Lc5xg1 c2-c1D 8.Tc3xc1
  +-  (3.82)   Tiefe: 8/35   00:00:13  2461kN
1...Lf2-g1+ 2.Kh2-h1 Db6-b8 3.Dd4xd5 e3xd2 4.d7-d8D Db8xd8 5.Dd5xd8 Lg1xc5
6.Dd8-a8+ Ka6-b6
  +-  (4.14)   Tiefe: 8/38   00:00:20  3571kN
1...Sd5xc3 2.d7-d8D Lf2-g3+ 3.Sf5xg3 f4xg3+ 4.Kh2xg3 Db6xc6 5.Dd4xc3 Tg5xe5
6.Dd8xf6 Te5xe6 7.Dc3xd3 Te6xf6
  +-  (4.13)   Tiefe: 8/38   00:00:25  4304kN
1...Sd5xc3 2.d7-d8D Lf2-g3+ 3.Sf5xg3 f4xg3+ 4.Kh2xg3 Db6xc6 5.Dd4xc3 Tg5xe5
6.Dd8xf6 Te5xe6 7.Dc3xd3 Te6xf6 8.Dd3xb5+ Dc6xb5
  +-  (3.78)   Tiefe: 8/38   00:00:26  4491kN
1...Sd5xc3 2.d7-d8D Lf2-g3+ 3.Sf5xg3 f4xg3+ 4.Kh2xg3 Db6xc6 5.Dd4xc3 Sa5-b7
6.Dd8xf6 Tg5xe5 7.Dc3xe5 c2-c1D
  +-  (3.78)   Tiefe: 8/38   00:00:28  4895kN
1...Sd5xc3 2.d7-d8D Lf2-g3+ 3.Sf5xg3 f4xg3+ 4.Kh2xg3 Db6xc6 5.Dd4xc3 Sa5-b7
6.Dd8xf6 c2-c1D 7.Dc3xc1
  +-  (4.03)   Tiefe: 9/38   00:00:38  6659kN
1...Sd5xc3 2.d7-d8D Lf2-g3+ 3.Sf5xg3 f4xg3+ 4.Kh2xg3 Db6xc6 5.Dd4xc3 Sa5-b7
6.Dd8xf6 c2-c1D 7.Dc3xc1
  +-  (4.53)   Tiefe: 9/38   00:00:43  7466kN
1...Sd5xc3 2.d7-d8D Lf2-g3+ 3.Sf5xg3 f4xg3+ 4.Kh2xg3 Db6xc6 5.Dd4xc3 Tg5xe5
6.Le6-c8+ Sa5-b7 7.Dc3xe5 e3-e2 8.Kg3-f2 c2-c1D 9.Lc8xb7+ Ka6xb7 10.Dd8xc7+
Dc6xc7
  +-  (4.54)   Tiefe: 9/38   00:00:45  7921kN
1...Db6-b8 2.Dd4xd5 Lg6xf5 3.d7-d8D Db8xd8 4.f3xe4 c2-c1D
  +-  (4.53)   Tiefe: 9/41   00:01:11  12238kN
1...Db6-b8 2.Dd4xd5 Tg5xf5 3.d7-d8D Db8xd8 4.f3xe4 c2-c1D 5.Le6-c8+ Dd8xc8
  +-  (4.18)   Tiefe: 9/41   00:01:15  13048kN
1...Db6-b8 2.Dd4xd5 Tf6xf5 3.d7-d8D Db8xd8 4.Dd5xd8 Lf2-g3+ 5.Kh2-h1 Sa5-b7
6.c6xb7
  +-  (4.17)   Tiefe: 9/41   00:01:20  13763kN
1...Db6-b8 2.Dd4xd5 Tf6xf5 3.d7-d8D Db8xd8 4.Dd5xd8 Lf2-g3+ 5.Kh2-h1 Sa5-b7
6.c6xb7 c2-c1D+ 7.Tc3xc1
  +-  (4.42)   Tiefe: 10/39   00:01:44  17736kN
1...Db6-b8 2.Dd4xd5 Tf6xf5 3.d7-d8D Db8xd8 4.Dd5xd8 Lf2-g3+ 5.Kh2-h1 Sa5-b7
6.c6xb7 c2-c1S 7.b7-b8D
  +-  (4.92)   Tiefe: 10/43   00:01:52  19129kN
1...Db6-b8 2.Dd4xd5 Lf2-g3+ 3.Sf5xg3 e3xd2 4.d7-d8D f4xg3+ 5.Kh2xg3 Tg5xe5
6.Dd8xb8 Te5xd5 7.Le6xd5 Sa5xc6
  +-  (7.46)   Tiefe: 10/43   00:02:28  25286kN
1...Sd5xc3 2.d7-d8D Lf2-g3+ 3.Sf5xg3 f4xg3+ 4.Kh2xg3 Db6xc6 5.Dd4xc3 c2-c1D
6.Dc3xc1 Tg5xe5 7.Lc5xe3 Dc6xc1
  +-  (7.45)   Tiefe: 10/43   00:02:31  25878kN
1...Sd5xc3 2.d7-d8D Db6xc6 3.Dd8-b8 Lf2-g1+ 4.Kh2-h1 Dc6xc5 5.Te5xc5 c2-c1D
6.Tc5xc3 Sa5-b7 7.Tc3xc1
  +-  (7.15)   Tiefe: 10/43   00:03:50  39649kN
1...Lf2-g3+ 2.Sf5xg3 f4xg3+ 3.Kh2xg3 Sa5xc6 4.d7-d8D Sc6xd8 5.Lc5xb6 Sd8xe6
6.Dd4xd5 e3xd2 7.Sa3xb5 c2-c1D 8.Tc3xc1 d2xc1D
  +-  (7.14)   Tiefe: 10/44   00:04:55  50460kN
1...Lf2-g3+ 2.Sf5xg3 f4xg3+ 3.Kh2xg3 Sa5xc6 4.d7-d8D Sc6xd8 5.Lc5xb6 Sd5xc3
6.Le6-c8+ Sd8-b7 7.Lc8xb7+ Ka6xb7 8.Dd4xe4+ Kb7xb6 9.De4xe3+
  +-  (6.79)   Tiefe: 10/44   00:04:56  50618kN
1...Lf2-g3+ 2.Sf5xg3 Sa5xc6 3.Te5xd5 c2-c1D 4.Dd4xf6 f4xg3+ 5.Kh2xg3 Dc1-e1+
6.Kg3-h2 Db6-b7
  +-  (5.87)   Tiefe: 10/44   00:05:24  55496kN
1...Lf2-g3+ 2.Sf5xg3 Sa5xc6 3.Dd4xd5 c2-c1D 4.Tc3xc1 e3xd2 5.d7-d8D d2xc1T
6.Lc5xb6 f4xg3+
  +-  (6.12)   Tiefe: 11/45   00:06:59  71349kN
1...Lf2-g3+ 2.Sf5xg3 Sa5xc6 3.Dd4xd5 c2-c1D 4.Tc3xc1 e3xd2 5.d7-d8D d2xc1T
6.Lc5xb6 f4xg3+
  +-  (6.62)   Tiefe: 11/45   00:07:11  73617kN
1...Lf2-g3+ 2.Sf5xg3 Sa5xc6 3.Dd4xd5 c2-c1D 4.Tc3xc1 e3xd2 5.Te5xg5 d2xc1D
  +-  (6.62)   Tiefe: 11/45   00:07:17  74778kN
1...Lf2-g3+ 2.Sf5xg3 Sa5xc6 3.Dd4xd5 c2-c1D 4.Tc3xc1 e3xd2 5.d7-d8D d2xc1T
6.Lc5xb6 Sc6xd8
  +-  (6.87)   Tiefe: 12/45   00:13:02  138779kN
1...Lf2-g3+ 2.Sf5xg3 Sa5xc6 3.Dd4xd5 c2-c1D 4.Tc3xc1 e3xd2 5.d7-d8D d2xc1T
6.Dd8-c8+ Db6-b7 7.Te5xg5 Ka6-a5 8.Dc8xb7
  +-  (7.37)   Tiefe: 12/45   00:13:59  151013kN
1...Lf2-g3+ 2.Sf5xg3 f4xg3+ 3.Kh2xg3 Db6-b8 4.Dd4xd5 c2-c1D 5.Tc3xc1 e3xd2
6.Tc1-d1 Tg5xe5 7.Dd5xe5 Db8-d8 8.Lc5-f2 Dd8xd7
  +-  (8.67)   Tiefe: 12/45   00:16:57  187969kN
1...Lf2-g3+ 2.Sf5xg3 f4xg3+ 3.Kh2xg3 Db6-b8 4.Dd4xd5 c2-c1D 5.Tc3xc1 e3xd2
6.Tc1-d1 Tg5xe5 7.Dd5xe5 Db8-d8 8.Lc5-f2 Sa5xc6 9.De5xb5#
  +-  (8.92)   Tiefe: 13/47   00:41:30  486569kN
1...Lf2-g3+ 2.Sf5xg3 f4xg3+ 3.Kh2xg3 Db6-b8 4.Dd4xd5 c2-c1D 5.Tc3xc1 e3xd2
6.Tc1-d1 Tg5xe5 7.Dd5xe5 Db8-d8 8.Lc5-f2 e4xf3 9.De5xb5#
  +-  (9.42)   Tiefe: 13/47   00:45:42  541719kN
1...Lf2-g3+ 2.Sf5xg3 f4xg3+ 3.Kh2xg3 Tf6-f8 4.Lc5xb6 c7xb6 5.Te5xg5 e4xf3
  +-  (9.42)   Tiefe: 13/47   00:50:29  605281kN

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