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Subject: Re: Why bother and buy new chess software?

Author: Mark Young

Date: 20:24:31 09/30/98

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On September 30, 1998 at 15:27:36, Amir Ban wrote:

>On September 30, 1998 at 05:36:03, Alessio Iacovoni wrote:
>
>>I have Fritz 16 bit and Hiarcs 16 bit. There is a great fuss around the 32 bit
>>version and the wonders it will offer. Now.. since it will not be compatible to
>>Hiarcs 16 engine I will not *ever* buy it... But the question I wanted to ask
>>the list is of a more general sort: these engines (Crafty, Fritz, the so called
>>"fast" ones but also the more positiona ones) rely heavily on the hardware
>>supported.. so in terms of playing strength, is it worthwile to buy a new engine
>>that is say 50 points stronger than the preceeding one? couldn't the same
>>strength improvement be achieved with a hardare upgrade that would have the
>>added bonus of raising the performace of windows and other programs as well.
>>
>>So the question is: why bother and buy the latest engine when the one you
>>already have could be just as strong with some minor harware improvements (say
>>+16 or +32meg of memory to increase hash tables).
>>
>>Also I have a doubt? Is the overall elo increase of SSDF lists due to better
>>hardare adopted in testing or to just software improvements? What's your
>>opinion?
>
>First, it's not true that you can get big engine strength improvements (of about
>50 points as you say) from minor hardware enhancement. Contrary to what you may
>have heard, doubling of hash memory will give you 2-3 points improvement, and
>that may be optimistic already.
>

Now if only this fact can sink in to the hash hungry crowd.


>To get a 50 point improvement, you need doubling of CPU, roughly. The technology
>advance for this happens, on average, once in 18 months, and costs $500-$1000
>for the upgrade. Software costs much less, and if it's available right now,
>what's the point of waiting for hardware to improve ?
>
>My estimate is that roughly half of the strength improvement of the top programs
>is due to software, and half to hardware.
>
>Amir



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