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Subject: Re: Top programs of today are too materialistics to play the correct move !

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 07:23:37 02/18/03

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On February 17, 2003 at 20:37:10, bobby palacios wrote:

>On February 17, 2003 at 19:04:16, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On February 17, 2003 at 18:58:49, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>This Gem of a desperate trap was played by Bogoljubow with the black pieces
>>>against Alekhine. Position after Black's 39th move where the trap was set up by
>>>Bogoljubow hoping to end up with an extra bishop. Nowadays top computer programs
>>>will NOT fall for this desparate trap, since they are all too
>>>materialistics and almost 99.9% will play 40.a5 which will also win, but
>>>Alekhine decides to walk into the trap and proves that this is the quickest way
>>>to WIN!
>>>
>>>[D]R7/5pk1/pb3rp1/3p3p/PP1N4/2PK2P1/7P/8 w - -
>>>
>>>40.RxP!  BxKt
>>>41.RxR   BxR    winning back the rook with an extra Bishop
>>>42.P-R5...Now the extra Bishop is unable to stop the two passed Pawns.
>>>
>>>If for instance, 42.....B-Q1, THEN SIMPLY 43.K-Q4, FOLLOWED BY KxQP, K-B6, etc.
>>>
>>>Pichard
>
>p4 2.47ghz, 256mb hash
>
>Analysis by Hiarcs 8:
>
>1.Rxa6
>  +-  (2.22)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
>1.Rxa6 Bxd4
>  =  (-0.05)   Depth: 2/8   00:00:00
>1.Rxa6 Bxd4 2.Rxf6 Bxf6
>  ³  (-0.63)   Depth: 2/8   00:00:00
>1.b5 axb5 2.axb5
>  ±  (0.79)   Depth: 2/10   00:00:00
>1.b5 axb5 2.axb5
>  ±  (0.79)   Depth: 3/10   00:00:00
>1.b5 axb5 2.axb5 Rf2 3.Ra6
>  ±  (0.95)   Depth: 4/12   00:00:00
>1.b5 axb5 2.axb5 Rf2 3.Ra6 Bxd4 4.Kxd4 Rb2
>  ±  (0.82)   Depth: 5/13   00:00:00  4kN
>1.a5 Bc7 2.Ra7 Be5 3.Re7
>  ±  (0.86)   Depth: 5/16   00:00:00  6kN
>1.a5 Bc7 2.Ra7 Bb8 3.Rd7 Rd6
>  ±  (0.86)   Depth: 6/16   00:00:00  11kN
>1.a5 Bc7
>  ±  (1.11)   Depth: 7/16   00:00:00  21kN
>1.a5 Bc7 2.b5 axb5 3.Nxb5 Be5 4.Rd8 Rf3+ 5.Ke2
>  +-  (1.46)   Depth: 7/16   00:00:00  25kN
>1.a5 Bc7 2.b5 Bxa5 3.bxa6 g5 4.a7 Ra6 5.h3
>  +-  (1.41)   Depth: 8/17   00:00:00  60kN
>1.a5 Bc7 2.b5 Bxa5 3.bxa6 Bc7 4.a7 Ra6 5.Nb5 Be5
>  ±  (1.23)   Depth: 9/20   00:00:00  144kN
>1.a5 Bc7 2.b5 Bxa5 3.bxa6 Bc7 4.a7 Ra6 5.Nc6 Bb6 6.h3
>  ±  (1.27)   Depth: 10/22   00:00:01  417kN
>1.a5 Bc7 2.Ra7 Be5 3.Rd7 Rf2 4.Rxd5 f6 5.b5 axb5 6.Rxb5 Rxh2 7.Nf3
>  +-  (1.49)   Depth: 11/26   00:00:04  1077kN
>1.a5 Bc7 2.b5 Bxa5 3.bxa6 h4 4.g4 Rb6 5.a7 Ra6 6.Nc6 Bb6 7.g5
>  +-  (1.58)   Depth: 12/28   00:00:09  2281kN
>1.a5 Bc7 2.Ra7 Be5 3.Rd7 Bxd4 4.Kxd4 Rf2
>  +-  (1.48)   Depth: 13/28   00:00:23  5159kN
>1.a5 Bc7 2.b5 Bxa5 3.bxa6 g5 4.Nb5 Bb6 5.Re8 Rf3+ 6.Kc2 Kf6 7.Rh8 Kg6 8.a7 Rf2+
>9.Kb3
>  +-  (1.58)   Depth: 14/35   00:01:07  15500kN
>1.a5 Bc7
>  +-  (1.83)   Depth: 15/37   00:03:20  47319kN
>1.a5 Bc7
>  +-  (1.83)   Depth: 15/37   00:03:38  51713kN
>1.Rxa6 Bxd4 2.Rxf6 Bxf6 3.a5 Be5 4.b5 Bd6 5.Kd4 h4 6.b6 hxg3 7.hxg3 Bxg3 8.Kxd5
>  +-  (2.13)   Depth: 15/38   00:05:10  76888kN
>1.Rxa6 Bxd4 2.Rxf6 Bxf6 3.a5 Bd8 4.Kd4 f5 5.Kxd5 g5 6.a6 Bb6 7.c4 f4 8.c5 Ba7
>9.gxf4 gxf4 10.b5
>  +-  (2.34)   Depth: 16/39   00:08:00  121683kN
>
>Junior7, S7 and F8 couldn't find Rxa6 within 10 minutes on my machine

If you let it a little bit longer using Fritz 8, it will solve it. Now the
question is how much longer than using an Athlon XP 2400+, since it took 12
minutes using my wife XP 2400+ with Fritz 8 to solve it. Set it up for 15
minutes and see if your P4 2.47 GHz can solve it.

Pichard



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