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Subject: Against a computer the sacrifice won't work...

Author: Joachim Rang

Date: 09:00:00 02/18/03

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On February 17, 2003 at 20:01:18, Matthew White wrote:

>[D]b2r3r/k4p1p/p2q1np1/NppP4/3p1Q2/P4PPB/1PP4P/1K1RR3 w - - 0 24
>
>The key move is Rxd4!(or !! depending on who you ask) after which the game
>continued cxd4? Re7+!! Kb6 Qxd4+ Kxa5 b4 Ka4, etc. From Kasparov-Topalov, Wijk
>aan Zee 1999. None of the programs I have tried so far can see this within 10
>minutes or so. I'm thinking that materialism, coupled with the overwhelming
>desire to move the knight off of a5 prevent most programs from seeing this.
>
>Matt

It seems the sacrifice is not winning. After the answer Kb6 the position is
probably even slightly better for black.

Shredder 7 prefers also Nc6+ for white, but gives nevertheless black a small
advantage.

Neue Partie
b2r3r/k4p1p/p2q1np1/NppP4/3p1Q2/P4PPB/1PP4P/1K1RR3 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Shredder 7:

1.Df4xd6 Td8xd6
  ±  (0.87)   Tiefe: 1/2   00:00:00
1.Df4xd6 Td8xd6
  ±  (0.87)   Tiefe: 1/2   00:00:00
1.Df4xd6 Td8xd6 2.Te1-e7+ Ka7-b6
  ±  (1.09)   Tiefe: 2/6   00:00:00
1.Df4xd6 Td8xd6 2.Te1-e7+ Ka7-b6 3.Td1-f1
  ±  (0.83)   Tiefe: 3/9   00:00:00
1.Df4xd6 Td8xd6 2.Te1-e7+ Ka7-b6 3.Sa5-c6 Td6xd5 4.Te7xf7 Kb6xc6 5.Tf7xf6+
Td5-d6
  ²  (0.27)   Tiefe: 3/13   00:00:00
1.Df4xd6 Td8xd6 2.Te1-e7+ Ka7-b6 3.Sa5-c6 La8xc6 4.d5xc6 Kb6xc6 5.Te7xf7
  =  (0.09)   Tiefe: 3/13   00:00:00
1.Df4xd6 Td8xd6 2.Te1-e7+ Ka7-b6 3.Sa5-c6 La8xc6 4.d5xc6 Kb6xc6 5.Te7xf7
  =  (0.09)   Tiefe: 4/12   00:00:00
1.Sa5-c6+ La8xc6 2.Df4xd6 Td8xd6 3.d5xc6 Td6xc6 4.Te1-e7+ Ka7-a8
  =  (0.12)   Tiefe: 4/12   00:00:00
1.Sa5-c6+ La8xc6 2.Te1-e7+ Dd6xe7 3.Df4-c7+ De7xc7
  =  (0.12)   Tiefe: 4/12   00:00:00
1.Sa5-c6+ La8xc6 2.Te1-e7+ Dd6xe7 3.Df4-c7+ De7xc7
  =  (-0.13)   Tiefe: 5/11   00:00:00
1.Sa5-c6+ La8xc6 2.Df4xd6 Lc6xd5 3.Dd6xf6 Ld5-a2+ 4.Kb1xa2
  =  (-0.12)   Tiefe: 5/11   00:00:00
1.Sa5-c6+ La8xc6 2.Df4xd6 Lc6xd5 3.Dd6xf6 Ld5-a2+ 4.Kb1xa2
  =  (0.13)   Tiefe: 6/11   00:00:00
1.Sa5-c6+ La8xc6 2.Df4xd6 Td8xd6 3.d5xc6 Td6xc6 4.Te1-e7+ Ka7-b6 5.Te7xf7
  =  (0.23)   Tiefe: 6/16   00:00:00
1.Sa5-c6+ La8xc6 2.Df4xd6 Td8xd6 3.d5xc6 Td6xc6 4.Te1-e7+ Ka7-b6 5.Te7xf7 Th8-e8
  =  (-0.02)   Tiefe: 7/14   00:00:00  71kN
1.Sa5-c6+ La8xc6 2.Df4xd6 Td8xd6 3.d5xc6 Td6xc6 4.Te1-e7+ Ka7-b6 5.Te7xf7 Th8-e8
  =  (-0.02)   Tiefe: 7/14   00:00:00  73kN
1.Sa5-c6+ La8xc6 2.Df4xd6 Td8xd6 3.d5xc6 Td6xc6 4.Te1-e7+ Ka7-b6 5.Te7xf7 Th8-e8
6.Lh3-f1 h7-h5
  ³  (-0.27)   Tiefe: 8/19   00:00:00  241kN
1.Sa5-c6+ La8xc6 2.Df4xd6 Td8xd6 3.d5xc6 Td6xc6 4.Te1-e7+ Ka7-b6 5.Te7xf7 Th8-e8
6.c2-c3 Te8-e2 7.c3xd4 c5xd4 8.Td1xd4 Te2xh2
  ³  (-0.32)   Tiefe: 8/19   00:00:00  280kN
1.Sa5-c6+ La8xc6 2.Df4xd6 Td8xd6 3.d5xc6 Td6xc6 4.Te1-e7+ Ka7-b6 5.Te7xf7 Th8-e8
6.Td1-d2 Te8-e1+ 7.Kb1-a2 h7-h5
  ³  (-0.38)   Tiefe: 9/22   00:00:02  623kN
1.Sa5-c6+ La8xc6 2.Df4xd6 Td8xd6 3.d5xc6 Td6xc6 4.Te1-e7+ Ka7-b6 5.Te7xf7 Th8-e8
6.Kb1-c1 Te8-e3 7.Td1-d3 Te3xd3 8.c2xd3 c5-c4 9.d3xc4 b5xc4
  ³  (-0.34)   Tiefe: 10/22   00:00:04  1460kN
1.Sa5-c6+ La8xc6 2.Df4xd6 Td8xd6 3.d5xc6 Td6xc6 4.Te1-e7+ Ka7-b6 5.Te7xf7 Th8-e8
6.Kb1-c1 Te8-e3 7.Td1-d3 Te3xd3 8.c2xd3 c5-c4 9.Kc1-d2
  ³  (-0.33)   Tiefe: 11/26   00:00:08  2628kN
1.Sa5-c6+ La8xc6 2.Df4xd6 Td8xd6 3.d5xc6 Ka7-b6 4.Te1-e7 Kb6xc6 5.Te7xf7 Th8-e8
6.Kb1-c1 Te8-e2 7.Td1-d2 Te2-e3 8.Lh3-c8 Kc6-d5
  ³  (-0.46)   Tiefe: 12/29   00:00:17  5557kN
1.Sa5-c6+ La8xc6 2.Df4xd6 Td8xd6 3.d5xc6 Ka7-b6 4.Te1-e7 Kb6xc6 5.Te7xf7 Th8-e8
6.Kb1-c1 Kc6-d5 7.f3-f4 Te8-e2 8.Td1-d2 Te2-e1+ 9.Td2-d1 Te1xd1+ 10.Kc1xd1 h7-h6
  ³  (-0.44)   Tiefe: 13/30   00:00:39  12735kN
1.Sa5-c6+ La8xc6 2.Df4xd6 Td8xd6 3.d5xc6 Ka7-b6 4.Te1-e7 Kb6xc6 5.Te7xf7 Th8-e8
6.Kb1-c1 h7-h6 7.f3-f4 Sf6-d5 8.Tf7-a7
  ³  (-0.45)   Tiefe: 14/32   00:01:13  23872kN
1.Sa5-c6+ La8xc6 2.Df4xd6 Td8xd6 3.d5xc6 Ka7-b6 4.Te1-e7 Kb6xc6 5.Te7-a7 Kc6-b6
6.Ta7xf7 Th8-e8 7.Kb1-c1 c5-c4 8.Lh3-f1 Sf6-g4 9.f3xg4
  ³  (-0.40)   Tiefe: 15/35   00:02:28  48181kN
1.Sa5-c6+ La8xc6 2.Df4xd6 Td8xd6 3.d5xc6 Ka7-b6 4.Te1-e7 Kb6xc6 5.Te7-a7 Kc6-b6
6.Ta7xf7 Th8-e8 7.Lh3-f1 Td6-e6
  ³  (-0.39)   Tiefe: 16/37   00:05:04  95245kN
1.Sa5-c6+ La8xc6 2.Df4xd6 Td8xd6 3.d5xc6 Ka7-b6 4.Te1-e7 Kb6xc6 5.Te7xf7 Th8-e8
6.Kb1-c1 Kc6-d5 7.f3-f4 Te8-e2 8.Td1-d2 Te2-e3 9.Lh3-g2+
  ³  (-0.35)   Tiefe: 17/40   00:12:16  226296kN
1.Sa5-c6+ La8xc6 2.Df4xd6 Td8xd6 3.d5xc6 Td6xc6 4.Te1-e7+ Ka7-b6 5.Te7xf7 Th8-e8
6.Lh3-f1 h7-h6 7.Lf1-d3 g6-g5 8.h2-h4 Te8-e3 9.h4xg5 h6xg5 10.Tf7-g7 Te3xf3
  ³  (-0.41)   Tiefe: 18/42   00:27:42  511565kN
1.Sa5-c6+ La8xc6 2.Df4xd6 Td8xd6 3.d5xc6 Td6xc6 4.Te1-e7+ Ka7-b6 5.Te7xf7 Th8-e8
6.Kb1-c1 Tc6-d6 7.Lh3-f1 Te8-e3 8.f3-f4 h7-h6 9.Lf1-h3 Te3-e8 10.Tf7-g7 Sf6-d5
11.Tg7-h7
  ³  (-0.46)   Tiefe: 19/44   01:01:15  1154943kN

(tralala,  18.02.2003)

After forcing Rxd4 Shredder wants to play Kb6 and the eval is about 0.5 in favor
for black.

Possible lines:


1. Nc6+ (1. Rxd4 Kb6 2. b4 Qxf4 3. Rxf4 Nxd5 4. Rxf7 cxb4 5. axb4 Nxb4 6. Nb3
=+) 1... Bxc6 2. Qxd6 Rxd6 3. dxc6 Rxc6 4. Re7+ Kb6 5. Rxf7 Re8 =





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