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Subject: Re: Intel -v- AMD

Author: Charles Worthington

Date: 11:18:22 02/18/03

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On February 18, 2003 at 14:02:37, GuyHaworth wrote:

>
>There was a 'Chess Duel' last year which featured Fritz and Shredder, Intel and
>AMD afai-remember.
>
>Deductions could be made about Fritz-v-Shredder and Intel-v-AMD, at least in the
>hardware configured.
>
>Maybe someone here still has the URL to the results.
>
>g

Thanks but actually I am more interested in the results today with current
technology. Using two high-end systems. It is my belief that many people are not
factoring hyperthreading into the equation (they are acting as if it doesn't
exist or makes no difference.) I have observed over 1200 kNs with a P4 3.06 GHz
running Fritz 8 on a single thread. Fritz 8 has more knowledge than it's
predecessors and, therefore, runs a bit slower as a result. On the Xeon
platform, with Deep Fritz 7, (and 4 threads) I can see no reason  whatsoever why
the 3.06 Xeons should not effortlessly break the 2500 kNs barrier. So far,
observing AMD systems the highest kNs I have observed was in the 2400 range.
most are in the 2200 area though. I have observed and played against every Dual
system on the chessbase server at one time or another. Of course I have no way
of knowing what hash size they were running and that factors heavilly into the
speed equation. Personally I get my highest kNs in blitz using a 64MB hash even
though the t-notes say this is too large. I am not willing to sacrifice even 100
kNs to drop down to the 32 MB hash though.



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