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Subject: Re: Intel vs. AMD bias on this site

Author: Matthew Hull

Date: 13:24:36 02/18/03

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On February 18, 2003 at 16:16:56, Yen Art Tham wrote:

>On February 18, 2003 at 13:47:58, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On February 18, 2003 at 13:11:24, Charles Worthington wrote:
>>
>>>I have noticed a great deal of bias toward Intel products on this site so I have
>>>decided to conduct an experiment using the fastest Intel Xeon technology and
>>>AMDs fastest system which I assume is the 2600. If not someone please correct me
>>>before I order it. I propose to test both systems using Deep fritz 7 with hash
>>>settings of 32,64,128,256, 512, and 1024MB. Both systems will be equipped with
>>>the best technology offered by current manufacturers. There will be no
>>>overclocking. They will be tested "as is" out of the box using the Deep Fritz 7
>>>Program and Deepfritzmark test. I will post the pictures here for all hash
>>>settings then we can lay the speculation to rest. Someone please leave me a post
>>>telling me which AMD Motherboard would be best to conduct this test with. As for
>>>Xeon testing I will conduct one test with hyperthreading enabled and one with it
>>>disabled. I know everyone likes to clock the AMD processors up but I will not
>>>overclock the Xeons (even if I could). They are far too expensive to be
>>>tinkering with and I doubt that the Intel board would support it anyhow. So we
>>>put them side to side and let them shoot it out and then it ends the speculation
>>>once and for all.
>>
>>I think a test is a very good idea.  I know Slater Wold usually has some very
>>fast hardware, so he might have something to benchmark against.  Perhaps a
>>uniform series of tests can be created, and then run on many different systems
>>so that we can create a performance table.
>>
>>One suggestion would be to set crafty to 100 million nodes on a dozen positions
>>or so, and we could see who is fastest to target.  Various commercial benchmarks
>>will also be interesting (Fritzmark, etc.)
>>
>>Nature of the positions and available tablebase files will be a consideration,
>>of course.
>
>
>I don't think Crafty is the engine one should use to test AMD vs Intel.
>It is well known that Crafty doesn't like dual AMD systems.


My impression is that it's not a Crafty issue, but a memory architecture issue,
which should apply equally to all programs.

Matt



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