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Subject: Re: Money no object? What about s390?

Author: Matthew Hull

Date: 13:43:58 02/18/03

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On February 18, 2003 at 16:41:44, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On February 18, 2003 at 15:57:03, Matthew Hull wrote:
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>>On February 18, 2003 at 15:35:37, Charles Worthington wrote:
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>>>On February 18, 2003 at 15:27:55, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 18, 2003 at 14:44:10, Charles Worthington wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Actually the 3175 kNs was derived at from a mathmatical formula: 1200 kNs for
>>>>>single 3.06 cpu times 1.85 (For Duals) then that figure times 1.33 for
>>>>>hyperthreading. Until I have the system in hand to test it the math is all i
>>>>>have to go by. Why hasnt anyone tested the dual 2.8 Xeons by now? They have
>>>>>certainly been on the market long enough that someone here would have tested
>>>>>them other than Bob.
>>>>
>>>>Unfortunately Bob dont like to install Fritz 7 or Fritz 8. I assume he only
>>>>would have to send chessbase a mail and they would ship him all products for
>>>>free.
>>>>He is probably Winboard-Crafty Fan :)
>>>>CC enthusiasts in Germany generally prefer Dual AMD systems. So do I
>>>
>>>I can't say which system I prefer yet. I will soon have both in hand then I will
>>>conduct unbiased tests. The germans prefer AMD because they don't run the new
>>>Xeons. The price in Germany is a major factor. Price-wise I prefer the AMD as
>>>well but i was not looking for the best value i was looking for the best
>>>performance with cost not an object.
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>>
>>Talk about money being no object...
>>
>>Does anyone know what Crafty performance is like on the latest s390 hardware
>>under Linux?
>>
>>If I knew anyone at IBM, I'd quiz them as to how well Linux scales to a 16-way
>>Z900 or (8-way for that matter) running on the bare metal (as opposed to running
>>under VM).  And if it does scale, then compile crafty on that and at least find
>>out the n-way speedup factor for more than 4 processors.
>>
>>Matt
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>That's not a particularly good architecture for chess.  I've run on several in
>the past, but
>they were pretty much dogs for chess.  Lots of I/O throughput, but not good
>number-
>crunching platforms at all..


What about memory?  Do you know how they handle shared memory across n
processors?  Even though the machines might be slow, would a test of n-way > 4
be interesting?

Thanks,
Matt


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>>>All I am saying is that the AMD users have
>>>not actually owned a newer Xeon system so when they quote performance specs they
>>>have no idea what they are talking about. My Xeon system i ordered from Dell is
>>>the very first one ordered in the 3.06 platform with the new E7505 Chipset. No
>>>one can claim to know that the AMD is faster than this box until we see for sure
>>>by testing them. What will they say if the Xeon turns out to be significantly
>>>faster?



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