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Subject: Re: Intel vs. AMD bias on this site

Author: Charles Worthington

Date: 20:35:18 02/18/03

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On February 18, 2003 at 23:28:35, David Dory wrote:

>On February 18, 2003 at 13:11:24, Charles Worthington wrote:
>
>>I have noticed a great deal of bias toward Intel products on this site so I have
>>decided to conduct an experiment using the fastest Intel Xeon technology and
>>AMDs fastest system which I assume is the 2600. If not someone please correct me
>>before I order it. I propose to test both systems using Deep fritz 7 with hash
>>settings of 32,64,128,256, 512, and 1024MB. Both systems will be equipped with
>>the best technology offered by current manufacturers. There will be no
>>overclocking. They will be tested "as is" out of the box using the Deep Fritz 7
>>Program and Deepfritzmark test. I will post the pictures here for all hash
>>settings then we can lay the speculation to rest. Someone please leave me a post
>>telling me which AMD Motherboard would be best to conduct this test with. As for
>>Xeon testing I will conduct one test with hyperthreading enabled and one with it
>>disabled. I know everyone likes to clock the AMD processors up but I will not
>>overclock the Xeons (even if I could). They are far too expensive to be
>>tinkering with and I doubt that the Intel board would support it anyhow. So we
>>put them side to side and let them shoot it out and then it ends the speculation
>>once and for all.
>
>Two posters here on CCC have done a similar set of tests.
>
>Slater Wold has tested AMD against Intel dual's, just last year. His email is
>swold@swbell.net
>
>Aaron Gordon has built and tested several AMD dual's. Some radically
>overclocked, some not. He has tested several with Crafty. His email is
>aarontay@mochamail.com
>
>I'm sure one of the issues will be that yes, Intel Xeon's are faster, but AMD
>Athlon's are faster *if* they are overclocked, which AMD's do well (with the
>right mobo), and Intel's don't, no matter the mobo.
>
>So if you like tinkering with your mobo settings, (and saving $$$), you'll
>probably still like Athlon's. If you don't like to tinker - (and got the bucks),
>stick with Intel.
>
>Your new test, especially with hyperthreading, will be very interesting.
>
>David


Honestly I have never given much thought to tinkering with Xeons as far as clock
speed. They are a bit expensive for that. I do know of people who do it with
very good results. The MB's are out there to support it but I think the average
xeon user probably buys them to avoid the hassles associated with the tinkering.
When I get a new machine I just want to plug it in and play chess.:-)). Yes I am
looking forward to the testing as well.



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