Author: Aaron Gordon
Date: 20:52:33 02/18/03
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On February 18, 2003 at 23:44:18, Charles Worthington wrote: >On February 18, 2003 at 23:39:18, Aaron Gordon wrote: > >>Hyatts box benchmarks a little over 2 million nodes/sec in the crafty benchmark. >>Hyatt, I know you say you get 2.5 million but in all the games you've played >>online where you've kibbed your nodes/sec you've ALWAYS been just over 2 million >>(2050-2150kn/s most of the time). Also, about a dual P4-3.06 + HT getting 3 >>million nodes/sec. Not going to happen (Possible in the endgame with almost no >>pieces). My AthlonXP 2100+ overclocked to 2.44GHz gets a little over 1.5 million >>nodes/sec in crafty and I've seen over 2 million in end-games. Enricos 2400+ @ >>2.52GHz gets almost 1.6 million in crafty. >> >>There are *NO* P4 chips available that can match this, including a P4-3.06 Xeon >>+ HT. Those get around 1.3 million WITH HT in crafty. If you do a 1.3 million * >>1.8 you come out to 2.34 million nodes/sec. Far cry from 3 million nodes/sec. >> >>How much did MY box cost? $97 for the chip, $80 for the board. $75 for the ram, >>etc. Not much at all. > > >Once again you are trying to compare overclocked Athlons to factory xeons and >still not accounting for the hyperthreading multiple of 1.33. Lets overclock the >Xeon too if you want a fair test. And also people can we please stop pretending >that the hyperthreading multiple does not exist? I am talking about hyperthreading. P4-3.06GHz only gets a little over 1.1 million nodes/sec without hyperthreading. around 1.3 million WITH hyperthreading. Hyatt states 33%, this isn't for a single cpu. This is roughtly 16% *PER CPU*. Which means you'll see around a 16% increase in performance in crafty with hyperthreading on one chip. Hyatt has a dual. 16 * 2 is what? 32.. pretty close to "33%" :) As I said before, the dual P4-3.06GHz Xeon *WITH HYPERTHREADING* will not get much more than 2.3 million nodes/second. I'll go over the math again with you. P4-3.06GHz gets a little over 1.1 million nodes/sec on average without hyperthreading. 1.1mn/s * 1.16(16% boost from HT) comes out to the benchmark results I saw, around 1.3 million. Now, 1.3 million multiplied by 1.8 is what? 2.34 million. This includes 16% x 2 boost for HT. Also, I highly doubt Xeon boards can be overclocked. They're not made to do such a thing. AMD systems however, can. Get an iWill MPX2 motherboard and two MP 2400+ or 2600+'s and overclock to 2.3-2.5GHz per cpu. No Dual Intel box would be able to touch such a system. Even non-overclocked I bet it'd still be faster.. and with the price you'd have to pay to even come close with an Intel box you could buy multiple AMD systems.
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