Author: Charles Worthington
Date: 21:02:41 02/18/03
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On February 18, 2003 at 23:52:33, Aaron Gordon wrote: >On February 18, 2003 at 23:44:18, Charles Worthington wrote: > >>On February 18, 2003 at 23:39:18, Aaron Gordon wrote: >> >>>Hyatts box benchmarks a little over 2 million nodes/sec in the crafty benchmark. >>>Hyatt, I know you say you get 2.5 million but in all the games you've played >>>online where you've kibbed your nodes/sec you've ALWAYS been just over 2 million >>>(2050-2150kn/s most of the time). Also, about a dual P4-3.06 + HT getting 3 >>>million nodes/sec. Not going to happen (Possible in the endgame with almost no >>>pieces). My AthlonXP 2100+ overclocked to 2.44GHz gets a little over 1.5 million >>>nodes/sec in crafty and I've seen over 2 million in end-games. Enricos 2400+ @ >>>2.52GHz gets almost 1.6 million in crafty. >>> >>>There are *NO* P4 chips available that can match this, including a P4-3.06 Xeon >>>+ HT. Those get around 1.3 million WITH HT in crafty. If you do a 1.3 million * >>>1.8 you come out to 2.34 million nodes/sec. Far cry from 3 million nodes/sec. >>> >>>How much did MY box cost? $97 for the chip, $80 for the board. $75 for the ram, >>>etc. Not much at all. >> >> >>Once again you are trying to compare overclocked Athlons to factory xeons and >>still not accounting for the hyperthreading multiple of 1.33. Lets overclock the >>Xeon too if you want a fair test. And also people can we please stop pretending >>that the hyperthreading multiple does not exist? > >I am talking about hyperthreading. P4-3.06GHz only gets a little over 1.1 >million nodes/sec without hyperthreading. around 1.3 million WITH >hyperthreading. Hyatt states 33%, this isn't for a single cpu. This is roughtly >16% *PER CPU*. Which means you'll see around a 16% increase in performance in >crafty with hyperthreading on one chip. Hyatt has a dual. 16 * 2 is what? 32.. >pretty close to "33%" :) > >As I said before, the dual P4-3.06GHz Xeon *WITH HYPERTHREADING* will not get >much more than 2.3 million nodes/second. I'll go over the math again with you. > >P4-3.06GHz gets a little over 1.1 million nodes/sec on average without >hyperthreading. 1.1mn/s * 1.16(16% boost from HT) comes out to the benchmark >results I saw, around 1.3 million. Now, 1.3 million multiplied by 1.8 is what? >2.34 million. This includes 16% x 2 boost for HT. > >Also, I highly doubt Xeon boards can be overclocked. They're not made to do such >a thing. AMD systems however, can. Get an iWill MPX2 motherboard and two MP >2400+ or 2600+'s and overclock to 2.3-2.5GHz per cpu. No Dual Intel box would be >able to touch such a system. Even non-overclocked I bet it'd still be faster.. >and with the price you'd have to pay to even come close with an Intel box you >could buy multiple AMD systems. My apologies I was not aware that you had included hyperthreading figures. But in regards to overclocking yes there are Xeon boards (non intel) that can be overclocked.
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