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Subject: Re: Intel vs. AMD bias on this site

Author: Matt Taylor

Date: 22:16:56 02/18/03

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On February 18, 2003 at 23:35:18, Charles Worthington wrote:

>
>On February 18, 2003 at 23:28:35, David Dory wrote:
>
>>On February 18, 2003 at 13:11:24, Charles Worthington wrote:
>>
>>>I have noticed a great deal of bias toward Intel products on this site so I have
>>>decided to conduct an experiment using the fastest Intel Xeon technology and
>>>AMDs fastest system which I assume is the 2600. If not someone please correct me
>>>before I order it. I propose to test both systems using Deep fritz 7 with hash
>>>settings of 32,64,128,256, 512, and 1024MB. Both systems will be equipped with
>>>the best technology offered by current manufacturers. There will be no
>>>overclocking. They will be tested "as is" out of the box using the Deep Fritz 7
>>>Program and Deepfritzmark test. I will post the pictures here for all hash
>>>settings then we can lay the speculation to rest. Someone please leave me a post
>>>telling me which AMD Motherboard would be best to conduct this test with. As for
>>>Xeon testing I will conduct one test with hyperthreading enabled and one with it
>>>disabled. I know everyone likes to clock the AMD processors up but I will not
>>>overclock the Xeons (even if I could). They are far too expensive to be
>>>tinkering with and I doubt that the Intel board would support it anyhow. So we
>>>put them side to side and let them shoot it out and then it ends the speculation
>>>once and for all.
>>
>>Two posters here on CCC have done a similar set of tests.
>>
>>Slater Wold has tested AMD against Intel dual's, just last year. His email is
>>swold@swbell.net
>>
>>Aaron Gordon has built and tested several AMD dual's. Some radically
>>overclocked, some not. He has tested several with Crafty. His email is
>>aarontay@mochamail.com
>>
>>I'm sure one of the issues will be that yes, Intel Xeon's are faster, but AMD
>>Athlon's are faster *if* they are overclocked, which AMD's do well (with the
>>right mobo), and Intel's don't, no matter the mobo.
>>
>>So if you like tinkering with your mobo settings, (and saving $$$), you'll
>>probably still like Athlon's. If you don't like to tinker - (and got the bucks),
>>stick with Intel.
>>
>>Your new test, especially with hyperthreading, will be very interesting.
>>
>>David
>
>
>Honestly I have never given much thought to tinkering with Xeons as far as clock
>speed. They are a bit expensive for that. I do know of people who do it with
>very good results. The MB's are out there to support it but I think the average
>xeon user probably buys them to avoid the hassles associated with the tinkering.
>When I get a new machine I just want to plug it in and play chess.:-)). Yes I am
>looking forward to the testing as well.

According to Tom's Hardware you can't fry them. According to the real world it's
difficult to say...

-Matt



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