Author: Matt Taylor
Date: 23:25:04 02/18/03
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On February 18, 2003 at 21:19:27, Charles Worthington wrote: >On February 18, 2003 at 21:16:04, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On February 18, 2003 at 21:05:37, Charles Worthington wrote: >> >>>On February 18, 2003 at 20:30:56, Mike Byrne wrote: >>> >>>>$4911 >>>> >>>>Started out with a base 450 Workstation and then customize it. >>>> >>>>Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 19:23:36 GMT >>>>Catalog Number: 4 04 >>>>Catalog Number Description Product Code SKU >>>> Dell Precision™ Workstation 450 Desktop: Intel® Xeon™ Processor, 3.06GHz, >>>>512K Cache 45D306 [221-2368] >>>> 2ND PROCESSOR (Must match speed selection above): Intel® Xeon™ Processor, >>>>3.06GHz, 512K Cache PR306 [311-2683] >>>> Memory: 1GB,DDR266 SDRAM Memory,ECC (2 DIMMS) 1GE2 [311-2259] >>>> Keyboard: Enhanced Performance, USB (8 Hot Keys) U8 [310-2701] >>>> Monitor: SAVE $200! Dell UltraSharp™ 1800FP flat panel display (18.1 VIS) >>>>1800FPP [460-7842] >>>> Graphics Cards: ATI, Radeon™ VE, 32MB, VGA (dual monitor capable) RADEONV >>>>[320-0568] >>>> First Hard Drive: 120GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive with DataBurst Cache™ 120I72 >>>> [340-7848] >>>> Floppy Drive: 1.44MB FDD,Full-size,no-bezel,F3 bay-1ST SOURCE 3 >>>>[340-3736] >>>> Operating System: Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional, SP1 with Media using >>>>NTFS WXP1 [420-1931] >>>> Mouse: USB,IntelliMouse OPTICAL Explorer,4 button w/ scroll O [310-0951] >>>> Modems: 56K,v.92 data/fax modem,PCI V92DF [313-1142] >>>> CD-ROM, DVD, and Read-Write Devices: 48X DVD-CDRW Combo Drive and 48X CD-ROM >>>> CCD48 [313-1720] >>>> Productivity Software: Dell Precision Workstation NOMSBE [461-2963] >>>> 2nd Hard Drive: 120GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive with DataBurst Cache™ 120I72A >>>> [340-7534] >>>> Hardware Support Services: 3Yr Parts + Onsite Labor (Next Business Day) >>>>W3YOS [900-1580][900-1582] >>>> Installation Services: No Installation NOINSTL [900-9987] >>>> Intel Hyper-Threading: Hyper-Threading feature preset to "ON." Can be >>>>disabled/enabled in BIOS. HYPER [460-7163] >>>> Energy Star: Energy Star™ ES [310-6414] >>> >>> >>>Yes and $5K is a very inexpensive price for the latest in technology with a >>>three year parts and onsite labor warranty with next day service. Nice that >>>someone bothered to actually check one of these systems out before slamming it. >>>:-))) >> >> >>I hope you didn't think I was slamming your machine. I have about a million >>dollars worth of dell boxes in labs here at UAB. Including my 9-node quad xeon >>cluster... I'm a fan of theirs, obviously. > >No Bob I knew you were an Intel fan. It was directed at the people who still >have it in their minds that AMDs can out-perform these systems. LOL There are many Intel fans and many AMD fans alike who ignore facts. A friend of mine is so blindly devoted to Intel (his uncle works for Intel) that he wouldn't admit AMD had the performance edge when they did. I guess the AMD/Intel debate rages on much like the Mac/PC debate used to. That is to say that it is more of a brand loyalty issue than anything else. Personally I am an AMD fan simply because AMD is more bang for the buck. I like getting more for my money. In 6 months there will always be something faster and better, and it is more reasonable to me to sacrifice performance and upgrade sooner. Intel vs. AMD performance is usually not horribly one-sided when tests are done fairly. It never has been. Bob's dual-Xeon 2.8 GHz ran a little bit faster with HT than my AthlonMP 2000 extrapolated to 2400. (I do not have 2400's around to test, but I tested my 1600's and 2000's and assumed a linear speedup.) The extrapolated numbers were within 10% of the 2.8 using HT. It is wholly possible that I could have achieved better numbers, but I am not going to dwell on that. It is too bad you aren't waiting until April. I am curious to see how the Opteron would fare. -Matt
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