Author: Uri Blass
Date: 09:26:23 02/19/03
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On February 19, 2003 at 12:17:31, James T. Walker wrote: >On February 19, 2003 at 11:56:09, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On February 19, 2003 at 11:29:15, James T. Walker wrote: >> >>>On February 19, 2003 at 07:56:41, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On February 19, 2003 at 00:50:04, James T. Walker wrote: >>>> >>>>>On February 18, 2003 at 22:57:47, Charles Worthington wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>I am cosidering making Crafty my primary engine for 3+2 and under games on the >>>>>>chessbase server. Does anyone have blitz stats (ie. w-l-d) for crafty vs various >>>>>>other engines? >>>>> >>>>>In my opinion Crafty is not a good blitzer. >>>> >>>>I have a different opinion >>>> >>>>Crafty has 6 versions in the top 14 free programs in blitz >>>> >>>>see http://www.digichess.gr/infiniteloop/ratings/IL3b_rate.txt >>> >>>Yes but look at the version numbers. The later numbers are lower on the list. >>>Also I'm curious as to how the games were played. Auto232? One computer with >>>ponder off? >> >> >>one computer with ponder off. >> >>> I'm completely unimpressed with one computer ponder off results. >>>They ignore an important part of chess engines. >> >>I do not think that the results are significantly different to ponder on unless >>one of the players cannot ponder. >> >> That is guessing the opponents >>>move and using the time to compute. There are other questions about single >>>computer testing which need to be answered. I believe auto232 is a realistic >>>test of programs in their "real world" element. >>> >>> >>>> >>>>I do not see Crafty as a better tournament player. >>>> >>>>Worst Crafty is better than best Comet in blitz based on the blitz list when in >>>>tournament time control things are different and there are tournaments when >>>>Comet can get better result than Crafty inspite of the fact that a lot of games >>>>are played >>> >>>What is a lot of games? If programs are close, several hundred will not tell >>>which is best. The opponents played by each is important also. >> >>A lot of games are more than 70 games. >> >>Can Comet get better result than Crafty in a blitz toruenament with more >>than 70 games? > >You are confusing me here. You say a lot of games is more than 70 but then you >talk about Comet getting better results in tournaments. Are you talking about a >tournament in which Comet played more than 70 games at tournament time control? >Are you talking about the results in the link below where Comet has played 76 >games so far? It's only 4 games ahead of Crafty and has not yet played Crafty >or Yace or ?? I think that you confuse with another tournament. In the tournament that I was talking about everyone played everyone CometB.46 scored 44.5/76 and Crafty18.15 scored 40/76 In another tournament that was not finished Crafty19.01 33.5/52, CometB.54 31.5/52 This tournament will include 100 games for every player. Uri
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