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Subject: Re: Aaron Gordon != Aaron Tay

Author: Aaron Gordon

Date: 11:52:41 02/19/03

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On February 19, 2003 at 08:09:12, Charles Worthington wrote:

>On February 19, 2003 at 00:35:21, Aaron Gordon wrote:
>
>>
>>>
>>>Interesting....the 2 fastest cpus on your list of overclocks are still
>>>intels...not amds. Not bad considering most like to say that intels don't
>>>overclock well.
>>
>>As I said before, that was a special cpu running with Freon. I know someone
>>running 3.1GHz with freon on an AthlonXP, if an 2.52GHz XP gets 1.57 million
>>nodes/second then you can roughly figure a little over 1.93 million
>>nodes/second. Still faster than a P4-4GHz with HT. :) I am in the process of
>>getting in touch with him, I'll get him to run a Crafty benchmark whenever I get
>>an email back. Also, when you compare overclocks it's good to compare
>>air-vs-air, liquid-vs-liquid, freon-vs-freon, etc.
>
>
>Actually though due to the differences in processors its hard to conduct a fair
>test where overclocking is concerned. That was why I proposed the test under
>factory conditions to begin with. Neither AMD nor Intel recommend overclocking
>their products and both will boot your warranty straight out the window for
>doing so. I understand that many users like to tinker with their cpu clock speed
>but most consumers won't do that. That's why I consider the out-of-the-box test
>to be more accurate. When we buy cars we buy them on the basis of performance
>off the showroom floor not on the basis of how fast our mechanics  can make
>them. Same with cpu's.

L2 & Memory really don't affect Crafty performance at all. A Tbird 1.33GHz with
SDRAM gets almost identical (Within margin of error it would appear) NPS to an
AthlonXP 1500+ (1.33ghz) with DDR. With this in mind a clock for clock
comparison should be alright considering the other things aren't much of a
factor.



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