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Subject: Re: this is simply wrong

Author: Aaron Gordon

Date: 19:30:20 02/19/03

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On February 19, 2003 at 22:11:42, Charles Worthington wrote:

>On February 19, 2003 at 22:03:36, Aaron Gordon wrote:
>
>>On February 19, 2003 at 21:46:55, Charles Worthington wrote:
>>
>>>I wasnt speaking of performance i was speaking mainly of purpose. Do you feel
>>>that AMD honestly markets their product and condones the ridiculous overclocking
>>> figures that we see here? Perhaps I will write AMD and post their reply here.
>>
>>Of course they don't like overclocking. Tell me this though, you really think
>>there's going to be a massive difference from a 2800+ (2250MHz) and my 2506MHz
>>cpu? 256MHz isn't a lot. I assure you two of those chips would mop the floor
>>with anything Intel has. You can get the chips for cheap, too. Just buy two
>>AthlonXP 2800+'s and connect the 5th L5 bridge to enable SMP mode. Now you've
>>got two 2800+ MP chips.
>
>Of couse you are comparing the chip to an intel which isnt overclocked. Not
>exactly a fair comparison. If it is so easy to build these sperfast AMDs then
>why are they not on the chessbase server posting 2600kNs with deep fritz 7? That
>is all I'm asking. I here talk here of "super chips" but we are not seeing the
>results posted here out in the field. Please explain why.

Lots of people don't overclock, simple as that. Most 'expert' overclockers play
3D games and would rather die than mess with chess. Most people that I've met
that do chess and overclock do it mildly, clock up a little bit and leave it at
that. Enrico C. asked me to help him put a new computer together and overclock
it.. he's running his AthlonXP at 2525MHz, 202fsb(404MHz DDR), 1gb ram, etc.
He's on the Hiarcs team. I'm sure you've seen him post in here a few times.

The hardware is available, you just need to know what to look for. Most people
would just grab any old Athlon and whatever board is in reach and push it. I
look for the best stepping and a GOOD board. These are the newer AIUHB chips.
Intel chips do overclock, too. They're doing about 3.2-3.5ghz air-cooled and
yes, they're slower than air-cooled 2.5GHz AthlonXP's. Highest overclocks I've
seen so far are from this page.. check it out:
http://www.vr-zone.com/guides/AMD/TBred/



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