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Subject: Re: this is simply wrong

Author: Charles Worthington

Date: 19:33:26 02/19/03

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On February 19, 2003 at 22:30:20, Aaron Gordon wrote:

>On February 19, 2003 at 22:11:42, Charles Worthington wrote:
>
>>On February 19, 2003 at 22:03:36, Aaron Gordon wrote:
>>
>>>On February 19, 2003 at 21:46:55, Charles Worthington wrote:
>>>
>>>>I wasnt speaking of performance i was speaking mainly of purpose. Do you feel
>>>>that AMD honestly markets their product and condones the ridiculous overclocking
>>>> figures that we see here? Perhaps I will write AMD and post their reply here.
>>>
>>>Of course they don't like overclocking. Tell me this though, you really think
>>>there's going to be a massive difference from a 2800+ (2250MHz) and my 2506MHz
>>>cpu? 256MHz isn't a lot. I assure you two of those chips would mop the floor
>>>with anything Intel has. You can get the chips for cheap, too. Just buy two
>>>AthlonXP 2800+'s and connect the 5th L5 bridge to enable SMP mode. Now you've
>>>got two 2800+ MP chips.
>>
>>Of couse you are comparing the chip to an intel which isnt overclocked. Not
>>exactly a fair comparison. If it is so easy to build these sperfast AMDs then
>>why are they not on the chessbase server posting 2600kNs with deep fritz 7? That
>>is all I'm asking. I here talk here of "super chips" but we are not seeing the
>>results posted here out in the field. Please explain why.
>
>Lots of people don't overclock, simple as that. Most 'expert' overclockers play
>3D games and would rather die than mess with chess. Most people that I've met
>that do chess and overclock do it mildly, clock up a little bit and leave it at
>that. Enrico C. asked me to help him put a new computer together and overclock
>it.. he's running his AthlonXP at 2525MHz, 202fsb(404MHz DDR), 1gb ram, etc.
>He's on the Hiarcs team. I'm sure you've seen him post in here a few times.
>
>The hardware is available, you just need to know what to look for. Most people
>would just grab any old Athlon and whatever board is in reach and push it. I
>look for the best stepping and a GOOD board. These are the newer AIUHB chips.
>Intel chips do overclock, too. They're doing about 3.2-3.5ghz air-cooled and
>yes, they're slower than air-cooled 2.5GHz AthlonXP's. Highest overclocks I've
>seen so far are from this page.. check it out:
>http://www.vr-zone.com/guides/AMD/TBred/

Yes Aaron but the overclock figures you have posted for these amds are
reasonable. They are not the wild exagerations that I have seen some here claim.
Thanks for providing some good info.



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