Author: Uri Blass
Date: 01:23:07 02/20/03
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On February 19, 2003 at 18:11:59, Amir Ban wrote: >On February 19, 2003 at 15:38:32, Bertil Eklund wrote: > >>On February 19, 2003 at 09:13:04, Amir Ban wrote: >> >>>On February 18, 2003 at 01:36:07, Bertil Eklund wrote: >>> >>>>On February 17, 2003 at 13:54:21, Rajen Gupta wrote: >>>> >>>>>"Boris Alterman dismissed a version that won big against a well-known SSDF star >>>>>as being based on nothing more than cheap tactics, and recommended a version >>>>>based on a match that it actually lost". >>>>> >>>> >>>>This is of course absolute nonsense and probably a pure lie. Of course it is >>>>only a way to say that it is weaker then the other top-engines and we hope to >>>>sell it on the merits of the Kasparov match. >>>> >>>>Bertil >>> >>>What makes you say that ? >>> >>>Amir >> >>Everyone knows that today it is impossible to beat a top-program with "nothing >>more than cheap tactics". In example Nimzo, Gandalf and Ruffian are tactically >>at the same level or better than Shredder but Shredders better positional play >>makes it a clearly better program. Of course you could be right if you mean that >>the matches was two, four or six games. >> > >That makes me a liar ? > >Some of your top SSDF programs are not very good positionally, even relative to >other programs. > >GM Alterman's assessment was based on 150 games against 3 opponents. One of the >results was 30-20. He said: > >"it only beat *** because of sheer tactics" "It can play only one opening - the >Sicilian" "I'm not impressed by the results and do not like the games" > >I dumped that version. Note that if it can play well the sicilian then it is possible to use it in games only when the sicilian opening is played so I see no reason to dump that version. I think that there is a problem when you give only part of the information and it leads people not to believe things(this is not personal against you and people also do not believe stories about results of deep blue in test games). I ask again if you plan to publish the games sometime in the future and when do you plan to do it. You did not answer a previous post of me in this thread. see http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?285294 Uri
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