Author: Chessfun
Date: 03:26:20 02/20/03
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On February 20, 2003 at 02:02:22, Bertil Eklund wrote: >On February 19, 2003 at 18:11:59, Amir Ban wrote: > >>On February 19, 2003 at 15:38:32, Bertil Eklund wrote: >> >>>On February 19, 2003 at 09:13:04, Amir Ban wrote: >>> >>>>On February 18, 2003 at 01:36:07, Bertil Eklund wrote: >>>> >>>>>On February 17, 2003 at 13:54:21, Rajen Gupta wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>"Boris Alterman dismissed a version that won big against a well-known SSDF star >>>>>>as being based on nothing more than cheap tactics, and recommended a version >>>>>>based on a match that it actually lost". >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>This is of course absolute nonsense and probably a pure lie. Of course it is >>>>>only a way to say that it is weaker then the other top-engines and we hope to >>>>>sell it on the merits of the Kasparov match. >>>>> >>>>>Bertil >>>> >>>>What makes you say that ? >>>> >>>>Amir >>> >>>Everyone knows that today it is impossible to beat a top-program with "nothing >>>more than cheap tactics". In example Nimzo, Gandalf and Ruffian are tactically >>>at the same level or better than Shredder but Shredders better positional play >>>makes it a clearly better program. Of course you could be right if you mean that >>>the matches was two, four or six games. >>> >> >>That makes me a liar ? >Ok sorry for this. I have never heard of anyone, human or program that easily >wins over in example Fritz or Tiger with cheap tactics and then dumps the >program or version. > >> >>Some of your top SSDF programs are not very good positionally, even relative to >>other programs. > >Compare Fritz, Shredder, Tiger and Junior, 4 of the best programs. Which >programs are weak positionally and which programs are better than them >positionally. Tactics don't come right from the air it comes from the position >and sometimes the book. > >>GM Alterman's assessment was based on 150 games against 3 opponents. One of the >>results was 30-20. He said: >> >>"it only beat *** because of sheer tactics" "It can play only one opening - the >>Sicilian" "I'm not impressed by the results and do not like the games" > >He wasn´t impressed of a program that was superior in the most popular opening >in the world. He wasn´t impressed of the result 60 % against one of the best >engines in the world?! >> >>I dumped that version. >> >> >>>I also believe you are wrong about your strange idea that Junior are >>>positionally at the same level as Super-GMs. The interesting thing with Junior >>>are that it plays sharp and many times strange moves that really can confuse >>>humans. >>> >> >>What you call "sharp & strange moves" are positional decisions. They are not >>based on search. Moves like a5 in game 4 against Kasparov and Bxh2+ in game 5 >>are based on evaluation. If you think getting pawns & pieces for free, or even a >>careless pawn move, confuse Kasparov or any other GM you are wrong. They turn >>gifts into wins with ease. > >Ok he wasn't confused, he was schocked both in game 3 and 5. Bxh2 was probably a >positional mistake but the tactics was so complicated that he was afraid of >them. If you had played another top-program I believe all odds are on white. > >That is exactly what everyone means, that castling right in to the attack are a >bad positional move, it is cheap tactics if you can survive in a bad position. >Maybee you have another definition of positional play than everyone else. >> >>In some positions Junior's understanding of a position does not match a GM's, >>but in others it understands better than most GM's. In the 3rd game in NY it >>showed a better understanding when defending the position than the opponent, and >>that's why it eventually won. > >Many have played out this line and the results clearly favors white. White was >better. I believe almost everyone believes white was clearly better but missed >tactically. >> >> >>>I also don´t understand the choice of openings in the match. In the first game >>>b6 are a known loser against that variation, 9 to 1 in my computer gamebase. >>>Black is already a move after and plays a non-move like b6. >>>Next time with black you try the same idea, including castling right into the >>>attack. Knight takes g4 was probably the right decision after the risky castling >>>.If not Junior had been better in tactics than the white side in this game it >>>should have been another loss. If Junior had been black against a known >>>SSDF-star in that game it had lost. >>> >> >>I believe you are wrong about this too, but here you will be able to check for >>yourself soon. > >If so it seems that this is the only point i´m wrong. In the SSDF database at Tony's Site I couldn't find this position but in Chessbase online; White +3 -9 =6 [Event "Tilburg"] [Site "Tilburg"] [Date "1993.11.??"] [Round "3"] [White "Akopian, Vladimir"] [Black "Georgiev, Kiril"] [Result "0-1"] [ECO "D45"] [WhiteElo "2600"] [BlackElo "2660"] [PlyCount "94"] 1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. c4 c6 4. Nc3 e6 5. e3 Nbd7 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. g4 dxc4 8. Bxc4 b6 9. g5 Nd5 10. Ne4 Be7 11. Bd2 Bb7 12. Rg1 c5 13. Ne5 a6 14. Nxd7 Qxd7 15. dxc5 Rc8 16. Qd3 bxc5 17. O-O-O Qc6 18. f3 O-O 19. Qc2 Rfd8 20. Kb1 a5 21. h4 Ba6 22. Bxa6 Qxa6 23. h5 Qe2 24. g6 fxg6 25. hxg6 h6 26. Ng3 Qb5 27. e4 Nb4 28. Bxb4 axb4 29. Rxd8+ Rxd8 30. Ne2 c4 31. Rd1 Ra8 32. Nd4 Qa6 33. b3 c3 34. f4 e5 35. fxe5 Qxg6 36. Nf5 Qe6 37. Qd3 Kh8 38. Rg1 Qxe5 39. Qc2 Bg5 40. Rd1 Bd2 41. Qd3 Rc8 42. Kc2 Bg5 43. Qe2 Qa5 44. a4 bxa3 45. Nd6 Rf8 46. Rf1 Rxf1 47. Qxf1 a2 0-1 [Event "Wch U18"] [Site "Szeged"] [Date "1994.??.??"] [Round "8"] [White "Kempinski, Robert"] [Black "Kacheishvili, Giorgi"] [Result "0-1"] [ECO "D45"] [WhiteElo "2385"] [BlackElo "2425"] [PlyCount "56"] 1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. c4 c6 4. Nc3 e6 5. e3 Nbd7 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. g4 dxc4 8. Bxc4 b6 9. g5 Nd5 10. e4 Nxc3 11. bxc3 Bb7 12. Be3 c5 13. Rd1 Qc7 14. d5 O-O 15. dxe6 fxe6 16. Bxe6+ Kh8 17. Qd3 Ne5 18. Nxe5 Bxe5 19. c4 Rad8 20. Bd5 Bc8 21. h3 Rf3 22. Ke2 Rdf8 23. g6 hxg6 24. Rdg1 Bd4 25. Rg4 Bxe3 26. fxe3 Rf2+ 27. Ke1 Bxg4 28. hxg4+ Rh2 0-1 [Event "POL-ch U20 op"] [Site "Biala Podlaska"] [Date "1994.08.19"] [Round "6"] [White "Kempinski, Robert"] [Black "Gradalski, Przemyslaw"] [Result "1-0"] [ECO "D45"] [WhiteElo "2385"] [BlackElo "2250"] [PlyCount "57"] 1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. c4 c6 4. Nc3 e6 5. e3 Nbd7 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. g4 dxc4 8. Bxc4 b6 9. e4 c5 10. g5 Nh5 11. Be3 O-O 12. O-O-O cxd4 13. Nxd4 Bf4 14. Rhg1 g6 15. Ncb5 Bxe3+ 16. fxe3 Qe7 17. Nc7 Bb7 18. Nxa8 Rxa8 19. Nb5 Ne5 20. Nd6 a6 21. Be2 Ng7 22. Qc3 Nc6 23. Rgf1 Nd8 24. Kb1 Qxg5 25. Qc7 Qe5 26. Qxb6 Rb8 27. Ka1 Qxh2 28. Bxa6 Ne8 29. Nxb7 1-0 [Event "Lexington"] [Site "Lexington"] [Date "1995.??.??"] [Round "?"] [White "Gurevich, Dmitry"] [Black "Kaidanov, Gregory S"] [Result "0-1"] [ECO "D45"] [WhiteElo "2525"] [BlackElo "2585"] [PlyCount "90"] 1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. e3 Nf6 4. Nc3 e6 5. Nf3 Nbd7 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. g4 dxc4 8. Bxc4 b6 9. Bd2 Bb7 10. g5 Nd5 11. Ne4 Be7 12. Ne5 Nxe5 13. dxe5 Qc7 14. f4 O-O-O 15. O-O-O c5 16. h4 Kb8 17. a3 Qc6 18. Nc3 Nxc3 19. Bxc3 b5 20. Bd3 Qb6 21. Be4 b4 22. axb4 cxb4 23. Bd4 Qb5 24. Bxb7 Qxb7 25. Qa4 Rd5 26. Kb1 Bd8 27. Rc1 Bb6 28. Bxb6 Qxb6 29. Rc6 Qxe3 30. Qxb4+ Ka8 31. Rhc1 Qd3+ 32. Ka2 Rb8 33. Qxb8+ Kxb8 34. Rc8+ Kb7 35. R8c7+ Kb6 36. R1c6+ Kb5 37. Rc3 Qe4 38. Rxa7 Kb6 39. Rcc7 Ra5+ 40. Rxa5 Kxc7 41. Ra7+ Kb6 42. Rxf7 Qa4+ 43. Kb1 g6 44. Rf6 Qe4+ 45. Ka2 Kc5 0-1 [Event "Linares zt"] [Site "Linares"] [Date "1995.11.??"] [Round "10"] [White "Wells, Peter K"] [Black "Antunes, Antonio"] [Result "1-0"] [ECO "D45"] [WhiteElo "2545"] [BlackElo "2530"] [PlyCount "172"] 1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 e6 5. e3 Nbd7 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. g4 dxc4 8. Bxc4 b6 9. e4 e5 10. h3 Bb7 11. Be3 Qe7 12. O-O-O O-O-O 13. Be2 Kb8 14. g5 Ne8 15. Kb1 Nc7 16. dxe5 Nxe5 17. Nh4 g6 18. f4 Nd7 19. Nf3 Rhe8 20. e5 Bc5 21. Bc1 Nd5 22. Qb3 Nxc3+ 23. Qxc3 Nf8 24. a3 a5 25. Bd3 Ne6 26. Be4 Nc7 27. Be3 Nb5 28. Qc1 Bxe3 29. Qxe3 c5 30. Rhe1 Rxd1+ 31. Rxd1 Rd8 32. Rxd8+ Qxd8 33. Bxb7 Kxb7 34. Qe4+ Ka7 35. Kc2 Qd7 36. a4 Nd4+ 37. Nxd4 Qxa4+ 38. Kd3 Qd1+ 39. Kc4 Qa4+ 40. Kd3 Qd1+ 41. Kc4 cxd4 42. Qxd4 Qf1+ 43. Kd5 Qxh3 44. Kd6 Qe6+ 45. Kc7 Ka6 46. Qd3+ b5 47. Qd6+ Ka7 48. Qxe6 fxe6 49. Kd6 a4 50. Kxe6 b4 51. Kf7 a3 52. bxa3 bxa3 53. e6 a2 54. e7 a1=Q 55. e8=Q Qh1 56. Kg8 Qh4 57. Qf7+ Ka6 58. Qxh7 Qxf4 59. Qxg6+ Ka5 60. Qf6 Qc4+ 61. Kh7 Qc7+ 62. Kh6 Qh2+ 63. Kg6 Ka4 64. Qc6+ Ka3 65. Qc3+ Ka4 66. Kg7 Qd6 67. Qc4+ Ka3 68. g6 Qe5+ 69. Kg8 Qb8+ 70. Kf7 Qa7+ 71. Ke8 Qe3+ 72. Kf8 Qf3+ 73. Qf7 Qa8+ 74. Kg7 Qe4 75. Kg8 Kb2 76. Qf6+ Kc1 77. g7 Kb1 78. Qf1+ Kb2 79. Qb5+ Kc1 80. Kf7 Qf4+ 81. Kg6 Qd6+ 82. Kf5 Qd8 83. Qc4+ Kb1 84. g8=Q Qd7+ 85. Qge6 Qh7+ 86. Qg6 Qh2 1-0 [Event "Kavala op 6th"] [Site "Kavala"] [Date "1996.??.??"] [Round "?"] [White "Vafiadis, Kleanthis"] [Black "Lazic, Miroljub"] [Result "0-1"] [ECO "D45"] [WhiteElo "2175"] [BlackElo "2465"] [PlyCount "94"] 1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 c6 3. c4 e6 4. Nc3 Nf6 5. e3 Nbd7 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. g4 dxc4 8. Bxc4 b6 9. e4 Nxg4 10. e5 Bb4 11. Rg1 h5 12. h3 c5 13. Qe4 cxd4 14. Nxd4 Ndxe5 15. Bb5+ Kf8 16. Qxa8 Qxd4 17. Qxc8+ Ke7 18. Bg5+ Kd6 19. Be7+ Kxe7 20. Qc7+ Kf6 21. hxg4 Nf3+ 22. Ke2 Nxg1+ 23. Rxg1 hxg4 24. Rd1 Qe5+ 25. Qxe5+ Kxe5 26. Rd7 f5 27. Rxg7 Kf6 28. Rd7 Rh2 29. Ke1 g3 30. fxg3 Rxb2 31. Bc4 Bxc3+ 32. Kf1 Be5 33. Rh7 Bxg3 34. Rh6+ Ke5 35. Rxe6+ Kd4 36. Bb3 f4 37. Re2 Kc3 38. Rxb2 Kxb2 39. Ke2 b5 40. Bd5 a5 41. Be6 Bh4 42. Kf3 Bg5 43. Ke2 Be7 44. Bd5 a4 45. Kd2 b4 46. Ke2 b3 47. axb3 a3 0-1 [Event "YUG-chT"] [Site "Niksic"] [Date "1996.??.??"] [Round "?"] [White "Milanovic, Vojislav"] [Black "Lazic, Miroljub"] [Result "0-1"] [ECO "D45"] [WhiteElo "2350"] [BlackElo "2455"] [PlyCount "142"] 1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 e6 5. e3 Nbd7 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. g4 dxc4 8. Bxc4 b6 9. g5 Nd5 10. Bd2 Bb7 11. Rg1 Rc8 12. e4 Nxc3 13. Bxc3 b5 14. Be2 b4 15. Bd2 c5 16. d5 exd5 17. exd5 Bxd5 18. Rd1 Nb6 19. Bb5+ Kf8 20. Nh4 g6 21. b3 Qe7+ 22. Kf1 Qe6 23. Qd3 Be4 24. Qe3 Nd5 25. Qe2 Qh3+ 26. Ke1 Rc7 27. Qg4 Qxh2 28. Kf1 Re7 29. Nf3 Qh5 30. Be2 Qxg4 31. Rxg4 Bc2 32. Rc1 Bf5 33. Rh4 Kg7 34. Bc4 Nb6 35. Bb5 Be4 36. Nh2 Nd5 37. Bc4 Nb6 38. Bb5 f5 39. gxf6+ Kxf6 40. Ng4+ Kf7 41. Re1 Bd5 42. Bc1 Rxe1+ 43. Kxe1 h5 44. Bb2 Rc8 45. Ne5+ Bxe5 46. Bxe5 Ke6 47. Bb2 c4 48. Rf4 c3 49. Bc1 a5 50. Bd3 Rg8 51. Bc2 Bc6 52. Rd4 Nd5 53. Bg5 Ra8 54. Kd1 Rf8 55. Ke1 Ke5 56. Re4+ Kd6 57. Rd4 Re8+ 58. Kd1 Kc7 59. Bd3 Re6 60. Bh4 Kb7 61. Bg3 Nf6 62. Rf4 Ne4 63. Rf7+ Kb6 64. Bb8 Bb5 65. Bc2 Nd6 66. Rh7 Be2+ 67. Kc1 Bg4 68. Ba7+ Kc6 69. Be3 Nf5 70. Bxf5 gxf5 71. Rf7 h4 0-1 [Event "Budapest FS05 GM"] [Site "Budapest"] [Date "1996.05.??"] [Round "2"] [White "Dao Thien Hai"] [Black "McDonald, Neil R"] [Result "0-1"] [ECO "D45"] [WhiteElo "2560"] [BlackElo "2450"] [PlyCount "48"] 1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 e6 5. e3 Nbd7 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. g4 dxc4 8. Bxc4 b6 9. e4 Bb7 10. g5 Nh5 11. Be3 b5 12. Bb3 a5 13. Qd2 O-O 14. Bc2 Nb6 15. Qd3 g6 16. O-O-O Ba6 17. Qd2 Nc4 18. Qe1 a4 19. Kb1 b4 20. Nxa4 Bb5 21. Nc5 Rxa2 22. Kxa2 Qa5+ 23. Kb3 Bxc5 24. Ra1 Nb6 0-1 [Event "Komercni Banka op"] [Site "Pardubice"] [Date "1996.07.??"] [Round "7"] [White "Fedorovsky, Michael"] [Black "Grabliauskas, Virginijus"] [Result "0-1"] [ECO "D45"] [BlackElo "2430"] [PlyCount "114"] 1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 Nf6 5. e3 Nbd7 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. g4 dxc4 8. Bxc4 b6 9. e4 e5 10. h3 Bb7 11. Be3 O-O 12. O-O-O Qe7 13. g5 Nh5 14. Be2 g6 15. dxe5 Nxe5 16. Nd4 c5 17. Ndb5 Bb8 18. Bxh5 a6 19. Be2 axb5 20. Bxb5 c4 21. Kb1 Nd3 22. Bxc4 Nb4 23. Qb3 Bxe4+ 24. Nxe4 Qxe4+ 25. Bd3 Qe7 26. a3 Nxd3 27. Qxd3 b5 28. Qd5 Ba7 29. Rhe1 Rfd8 30. Qf3 Bxe3 31. Qxe3 Qc7 32. Rxd8+ Rxd8 33. Qc3 Qf4 34. Qe3 Qf5+ 35. Ka1 b4 36. Qb6 Qxg5 37. Qxb4 h5 38. Qb3 Qf5 39. Qe3 Rd3 40. Qe8+ Kh7 41. h4 Qxf2 42. Qe7 Rd2 43. Rb1 Re2 44. Qb4 Qf5 45. Rd1 Re4 46. Rd4 Rg4 47. a4 Rg1+ 48. Ka2 Qb1+ 49. Kb3 Rg3+ 50. Kc4 Qc2+ 51. Kd5 Qf5+ 52. Kc6 Qc8+ 53. Kd6 Re3 54. Re4 Rd3+ 55. Ke7 Kg7 56. Rd4 Qc7+ 57. Ke8 Qe5+ 0-1 [Event "Barcelona op rap"] [Site "Barcelona"] [Date "1996.12.??"] [Round "6"] [White "Illescas Cordoba, Miguel"] [Black "Flear, Glenn C"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [ECO "D45"] [WhiteElo "2640"] [BlackElo "2435"] [PlyCount "69"] 1. Nf3 d5 2. d4 Nf6 3. c4 c6 4. Nc3 e6 5. e3 Nbd7 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. g4 dxc4 8. Bxc4 b6 9. e4 e5 10. g5 Ng8 11. dxe5 Nxe5 12. Nxe5 Bxe5 13. f4 Bd4 14. Bd2 Ne7 15. O-O-O Bg4 16. Be2 Bxe2 17. Nxe2 c5 18. Qa4+ Qd7 19. Qxd7+ Kxd7 20. Bc3 Nc6 21. Nxd4 cxd4 22. Bxd4 Nxd4 23. Rxd4+ Ke7 24. Kd2 Rac8 25. Rg1 Rc6 26. Rg3 h6 27. Rh3 Rhc8 28. gxh6 Rc2+ 29. Ke3 gxh6 30. Rd2 R8c4 31. Rxc2 Rxc2 32. Rxh6 Rxb2 33. Rc6 Kd7 34. Rf6 Ke7 35. Rc6 1/2-1/2 [Event "Groningen op"] [Site "Groningen"] [Date "1998.12.??"] [Round "4"] [White "Radziewicz, Iweta"] [Black "Middelburg, Tom"] [Result "0-1"] [ECO "D45"] [WhiteElo "2425"] [BlackElo "2230"] [PlyCount "112"] 1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nc3 e6 4. e3 Nf6 5. Nf3 Nbd7 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. g4 dxc4 8. Bxc4 b6 9. g5 Nd5 10. Nxd5 cxd5 11. Bd3 Bb7 12. Bd2 Rc8 13. Bc3 a6 14. a4 e5 15. Bf5 e4 16. Ne5 Bxe5 17. Bxd7+ Qxd7 18. dxe5 d4 19. O-O-O d3 20. Qb3 O-O 21. Rhg1 Bd5 22. Qa3 Rc4 23. a5 Ra4 24. Qd6 Ra1+ 25. Kd2 Rxd1+ 26. Rxd1 Qf5 27. f4 Qg4 28. Kc1 Qe2 29. Rd2 Qe1+ 30. Rd1 Qe2 31. Rd2 Qe1+ 32. Rd1 Qxe3+ 33. Kb1 Qe2 34. Rc1 d2 35. Qxd5 dxc1=Q+ 36. Kxc1 bxa5 37. Qd4 Qd3 38. Qxd3 exd3 39. Kd2 Rd8 40. Bxa5 Rd5 41. Bc3 g6 42. Ke3 Kf8 43. Bd2 Ke7 44. h4 Ke6 45. Ke4 Rd7 46. h5 Rd8 47. h6 Rd7 48. Kf3 Kf5 49. Ke3 Rd8 50. b3 Rd7 51. b4 Rd8 52. Kf3 Rd4 53. e6 fxe6 54. Be3 d2 55. Bxd2 Rxd2 56. b5 axb5 0-1 [Event "EU-chT (Men)"] [Site "Batumi"] [Date "1999.11.06"] [Round "6"] [White "Hillarp Persson, Tiger"] [Black "Borgo, Giulio"] [Result "1-0"] [ECO "D45"] [WhiteElo "2507"] [BlackElo "2444"] [PlyCount "73"] 1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. e3 Nf6 5. Nf3 Nbd7 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. g4 dxc4 8. Bxc4 b6 9. e4 e5 10. g5 Nh5 11. Be3 Qc7 12. O-O-O O-O 13. Kb1 g6 14. Be2 exd4 15. Nxd4 Nf4 16. h4 b5 17. Bxb5 Bb7 18. h5 Be5 19. Bc4 Nb6 20. Be2 Rae8 21. hxg6 fxg6 22. a4 Nxe2 23. Qxe2 Qf7 24. f4 Bh8 25. e5 c5 26. Ndb5 Qb3 27. Nd6 Bxh1 28. Rxh1 Nxa4 29. Nxa4 Qxa4 30. Qg2 Rb8 31. Qd5+ Kg7 32. Rh2 h5 33. gxh6+ Kh7 34. Ne4 g5 35. Nxg5+ Kg6 36. Qe6+ Rf6 37. f5# 1-0 [Event "St Petersburg White Nights"] [Site "St Petersburg"] [Date "2001.06.09"] [Round "2"] [White "Inarkiev, Ernesto"] [Black "Grachev, Boris"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [ECO "D45"] [WhiteElo "2469"] [BlackElo "2360"] [PlyCount "89"] 1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. e3 Nf6 5. Nf3 Nbd7 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. g4 dxc4 8. Bxc4 b6 9. e4 Bb7 10. e5 c5 11. Be2 cxd4 12. exf6 dxc3 13. fxg7 Rg8 14. Qxh7 Nf6 15. Qh6 Bxf3 16. Bxf3 Be5 17. O-O cxb2 18. Bxb2 Bxb2 19. Rad1 Qc7 20. Bxa8 Nxg4 21. Qh4 Bf6 22. Qg3 Ne5 23. Kh1 Rxg7 24. Qf4 Be7 25. Rg1 Rxg1+ 26. Rxg1 Bd6 27. Rg8+ Ke7 28. Qh4+ Kd7 29. Qa4+ b5 30. Qxb5+ Ke7 31. Rg1 Qc2 32. Qb7+ Nd7 33. Qxa7 Qh7 34. Rg2 Qb1+ 35. Rg1 Qh7 36. f4 Bc5 37. Qb7 Bxg1 38. Kxg1 Qg7+ 39. Kf2 Qd4+ 40. Kg3 Qg7+ 41. Kh3 Qh6+ 42. Kg3 Qg7+ 43. Kf3 Qc3+ 44. Kg2 Qg7+ 45. Kf2 1/2-1/2 [Event "Asian-ch"] [Site "Calcutta"] [Date "2001.08.09"] [Round "2"] [White "Barsov, Alexei"] [Black "Reefat, Bin Sattar"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [ECO "D45"] [WhiteElo "2495"] [BlackElo "2444"] [PlyCount "46"] 1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. e3 Nf6 5. Nf3 Nbd7 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. g4 dxc4 8. Bxc4 b6 9. e4 Bb7 10. e5 c5 11. exf6 Bxf3 12. fxg7 Rg8 13. Qxh7 Nf6 14. Bb5+ Ke7 15. Bg5 cxd4 16. Bxf6+ Kxf6 17. Ne4+ Bxe4 18. Qxe4 Qc7 19. Kf1 Rad8 20. h4 Kxg7 21. Rd1 Be5 22. Rh3 Qc5 23. Bd3 Qd5 1/2-1/2 [Event "Copenhagen CU 75th"] [Site "Copenhagen"] [Date "2002.02.09"] [Round "8"] [White "Ward, Christopher"] [Black "Gausel, Einar"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [ECO "D45"] [WhiteElo "2486"] [BlackElo "2520"] [PlyCount "116"] 1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. e3 Nf6 5. Nf3 Nbd7 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. g4 dxc4 8. Bxc4 b6 9. e4 e5 10. g5 Nh5 11. Be3 O-O 12. O-O-O Qc7 13. Be2 exd4 14. Nxd4 Nf4 15. Kb1 Be5 16. h4 Nc5 17. h5 Nce6 18. g6 Nxd4 19. Bxd4 Be6 20. gxh7+ Kxh7 21. Bf3 Rad8 22. Be3 Rxd1+ 23. Rxd1 Rd8 24. Ne2 Rxd1+ 25. Qxd1 c5 26. Qd2 Nxe2 27. Bxe2 Qd6 28. Qxd6 Bxd6 29. b3 Bd7 30. a4 Kg8 31. Kc2 f6 32. Bc4+ Kf8 33. h6 gxh6 34. Bxh6+ Ke7 35. Kd3 Be5 36. Be3 Bd6 37. Bd2 Bc6 38. f4 Bd7 39. Ke3 Bc6 40. Be1 Kf8 41. Bg3 Bb7 42. e5 fxe5 43. fxe5 Be7 44. Kf4 Ke8 45. Kf5 Bg2 46. Bb5+ Kd8 47. Ke6 Bf3 48. Bc4 Ke8 49. Bb5+ Kd8 50. Bc4 Ke8 51. Kf5 Bd1 52. e6 Bc2+ 53. Ke5 Bd1 54. Ke4 Kd8 55. Kd5 Bf3+ 56. Ke5 Bd1 57. Kd5 Bf3+ 58. Ke5 Bd1 1/2-1/2 [Event "RUS-Cup04"] [Site "Samara"] [Date "2002.07.26"] [Round "8"] [White "Chuprov, Dmitry"] [Black "Yevseev, Denis"] [Result "0-1"] [ECO "D45"] [WhiteElo "2468"] [BlackElo "2546"] [PlyCount "68"] 1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. e3 Nf6 5. Nf3 Nbd7 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. g4 dxc4 8. Bxc4 b6 9. Bd2 Bb7 10. g5 Nd5 11. Nxd5 cxd5 12. Bd3 Rc8 13. Qa4 O-O 14. Rg1 Qe7 15. Bc3 a6 16. a3 b5 17. Qb3 e5 18. Bf5 Rc4 19. Bxd7 exd4 20. Bxd4 Qxd7 21. Nd2 Rc7 22. Qd3 Qh3 23. Rd1 Bc8 24. Qf1 Qh4 25. Qg2 Be6 26. Ke2 Rfc8 27. f3 Rc2 28. Qf2 Qh5 29. h4 b4 30. axb4 Bd7 31. Bc3 Bb5+ 32. Ke1 d4 33. Bxd4 Bxb4 34. Qh2 Qxf3 0-1 [Event "Porto San Giorgio op 14th"] [Site "Porto San Giorgio"] [Date "2002.08.20"] [Round "5"] [White "Barsov, Alexei"] [Black "Kohlweyer, Bernd"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [ECO "D45"] [WhiteElo "2550"] [BlackElo "2452"] [PlyCount "30"] 1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. e3 Nf6 5. Nf3 Nbd7 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. g4 dxc4 8. Bxc4 b6 9. e4 Bb7 10. e5 c5 11. exf6 Bxf3 12. fxg7 Rg8 13. Qxh7 Nf6 14. Bb5+ Ke7 15. Bg5 Bf4 1/2-1/2 [Event "Bled ol (Women)"] [Site "Bled"] [Date "2002.10.26"] [Round "9"] [White "Radziewicz, Iweta"] [Black "Krush, Irina"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [ECO "D45"] [WhiteElo "2421"] [BlackElo "2403"] [PlyCount "123"] 1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. e3 Nf6 5. Nf3 Nbd7 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. g4 dxc4 8. Bxc4 b6 9. g5 Nd5 10. e4 Nxc3 11. bxc3 Bb7 12. e5 Be7 13. Qe2 b5 14. Bb3 c5 15. Bd1 b4 16. Rb1 Bc6 17. cxb4 cxd4 18. O-O Nb6 19. Qd3 O-O 20. Qxd4 Qc7 21. Qg4 Nd5 22. Bd2 Bb5 23. Re1 Bd3 24. Rc1 Qb7 25. a3 a5 26. Bc2 Bxc2 27. Rxc2 axb4 28. axb4 Ra3 29. Qe4 Qa6 30. Rb1 Qa4 31. Kg2 Rd8 32. h4 Bf8 33. h5 Ne7 34. Rbc1 Rdd3 35. Rc3 Rdxc3 36. Bxc3 Nd5 37. Bd2 Qa8 38. Rc4 g6 39. h6 Rb3 40. Qc2 Ra3 41. Qe4 Rb3 42. Nh2 Rb2 43. Nf3 Rb3 44. Kh2 Qa3 45. Kg2 Qa8 46. Rd4 Qb7 47. Nh2 Bxb4 48. Rxb4 Rxb4 49. Bxb4 Qxb4 50. Qxb4 Nxb4 51. Kf3 Kf8 52. Ke4 Ke7 53. Ng4 Nd5 54. Kd4 Kd7 55. Kc5 Kc7 56. Nf6 Nxf6 57. gxf6 g5 58. f3 Kd7 59. Kb6 Kd8 60. Ka6 Kc8 61. Kb6 Kb8 62. Kc6 1/2-1/2
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