Author: Amir Ban
Date: 04:53:35 02/20/03
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On February 20, 2003 at 04:23:07, Uri Blass wrote: >On February 19, 2003 at 18:11:59, Amir Ban wrote: > >>On February 19, 2003 at 15:38:32, Bertil Eklund wrote: >> >>>On February 19, 2003 at 09:13:04, Amir Ban wrote: >>> >>>>On February 18, 2003 at 01:36:07, Bertil Eklund wrote: >>>> >>>>>On February 17, 2003 at 13:54:21, Rajen Gupta wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>"Boris Alterman dismissed a version that won big against a well-known SSDF star >>>>>>as being based on nothing more than cheap tactics, and recommended a version >>>>>>based on a match that it actually lost". >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>This is of course absolute nonsense and probably a pure lie. Of course it is >>>>>only a way to say that it is weaker then the other top-engines and we hope to >>>>>sell it on the merits of the Kasparov match. >>>>> >>>>>Bertil >>>> >>>>What makes you say that ? >>>> >>>>Amir >>> >>>Everyone knows that today it is impossible to beat a top-program with "nothing >>>more than cheap tactics". In example Nimzo, Gandalf and Ruffian are tactically >>>at the same level or better than Shredder but Shredders better positional play >>>makes it a clearly better program. Of course you could be right if you mean that >>>the matches was two, four or six games. >>> >> >>That makes me a liar ? >> >>Some of your top SSDF programs are not very good positionally, even relative to >>other programs. >> >>GM Alterman's assessment was based on 150 games against 3 opponents. One of the >>results was 30-20. He said: >> >>"it only beat *** because of sheer tactics" "It can play only one opening - the >>Sicilian" "I'm not impressed by the results and do not like the games" >> >>I dumped that version. > >Note that if it can play well the sicilian then it is possible to use it in >games only when the sicilian opening is played so I see no reason to dump that >version. That's ok. Other versions also remember how to play this opening. > >I think that there is a problem when you give only part of the information and >it leads people not to believe things(this is not personal against you and >people also do not believe stories about results of deep blue in test games). > >I ask again if you plan to publish the games sometime in the future and when do >you plan to do it. > No. I'm not going to publish a bunch of games of a historic discarded version. I was making a point when answering some question. You can accept it or not, and everyone is free to develop & test in the way that works best for them. I don't have to prove that I do it in the way I do. >You did not answer a previous post of me in this thread. >see http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?285294 > We want to release Junior8 soon, but I don't have details yet. Amir >Uri
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