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Subject: Re: To Matt Taylor PS

Author: Charles Worthington

Date: 11:03:50 02/20/03

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Are you referring to the fritz server quotes? Actually my figures were not
quoted as a comparison of AMD and Intel. I am sure that the 2600 is close to
being the equal of the P4 3.06. The figures posted there were actually to
compare the outrageous benchmarks I have seen posted here to the actual
benchmarks that are being posted in the field...Many of the people posting these
benchmarks play on the fritz server and I have seen their machines run
personally. All I am saying is....it just ain't so. They are not getting near
that speed. I have 120,000 playchess games in my db with the avg. kNs per game
of each machine posted in the analysis. Thats about the largest db of anyone
there and you wont find a posting over 2400 kNs in that whole db. The purpose of
this formus is so that we can all learn what configurations perform well and
which ones don't so we can improve our own performance. It is hard to achieve
that goal if inflated figures are being posted. Many people like myself who are
not computer experts come here for advice on configurations. It is quite
confusing when you start seeing vastly diverse figures on what is supposedly the
same cpu. Yes, I think it is obvious that I prefer Intel systems myself.
But....I also like the AMD systems and am looking to purchase a 2600MP myself. I
think the 2300 kNs that i have seen posted from the 2400MP is outstanding
performance and in line with what I would expect from 2.6 to 2.8 Xeons. My only
question in regard to AMD products is I think not unreasonable: Are they of
equal quality to Intel's products? In a society where "you get what you pay for"
price is the way most people tend to judge quality. Since I am no expert on
processor design I look to the next thing: what does it cost? Now once I have
the 2600MP in hand I may fall in love with the system...who knows? I don't have
a bias against AMD...I am just ignorant of their products. I have never owned
one nor operated one. i have stuck with intel because that is what I have always
owned (like many people). I am willing to give the AMD a spin and see how she
performs. Eventually I plan to purchase a quad system. I am still testing the
waters with the duals though to see which platform to go with. Cost aside I will
always go with whichever one performs best. If AMD comes out with a quad that
will dust the Xeons then I will bye it and hapilly save myself some money in the
process. But...Every independant study I have seen recently has ranked the 2.8
Xeon ahead of the 2400MP in most areas. That is the bottom line to date. That is
why I purchased Intel. Perhaps one day that will change...but not today

Charles



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