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Subject: Re: Question for Bob Hyatt

Author: Matthew Hull

Date: 11:06:31 02/20/03

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On February 20, 2003 at 13:08:28, Pavel Blokhine wrote:

>On February 19, 2003 at 23:41:42, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On February 19, 2003 at 22:16:33, Pavel Blokhine wrote:
>>
>>>On February 19, 2003 at 18:27:49, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 19, 2003 at 17:42:53, Pavel Blokhine wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 19, 2003 at 12:53:30, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On February 19, 2003 at 11:32:21, Pavel Blokhine wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You seem to know about computer more than anyone here, so i would like to know
>>>>>>>how well this computer will do using Deep Junior 7 or Deep Fritz 7 and Frizt 8?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>From IBM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>pSeries 690
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>8- to 32-way SMP server utilizing the first ever POWER4 dual processor on a chip
>>>>>>>using IBM advanced silicon-on-insulator and copper technologies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The problem is that this is not a SMP server as the world defines SMP.  I have
>>>>>>not looked
>>>>>>at it closely, but in the past, such machines from IBM were based on a
>>>>>>message-passing
>>>>>>architecture rather than shared memory.  Whether this machine fits that
>>>>>>description or
>>>>>>whether it is another NUMA system is something I'll try to look into and post a
>>>>>>follow-up
>>>>>>here...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Processor
>>>>>>>64-bit POWER4
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Clock rates (Min/Max)
>>>>>>>1.1GHz / 1.3GHz
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>System memory (Std/Max)
>>>>>>>8GB / 256GB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Internal storage (Std/Max)
>>>>>>>36.4GB / 18.7TB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Performance (rPerf range)***
>>>>>
>>>>>>>12.72 to 50.56
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I found them in the IBM website. I just wanted to know how well a computer using
>>>>>32 processors and 256 GB of ram will perform against a GM or a Dual.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>If it is a NUMA machine, the dual will probably kill it until the program is
>>>>modified to
>>>>work on that kind of architecture.  In a classic NUMA machine, it is possible
>>>>for 32 processors
>>>>to run slower than one processor, if memory usage is not very carefully
>>>>controlled.
>>>
>>>
>>>Ok thank you. But what sort of computer you would say is considerably more
>>>powerful than your dual?
>>
>>
>>Multi-Itanium2 boxes (but not the big 64-way and so forth boxes that are NUMA.
>>Multi-alpha boxes.  MIPS-based might do well in the (say) power-challenge type
>>platform...  HP I don't know about...
>
>
>Well Bob, if that's not to much to ask, can you tell me the proper
>configurations and hardware power for a computer that would beat your dual? I
>would be glad to buy it from you if you build computers. I don't care about the
>price so long as it's under $20,000


Before spending that kind of money, you might want to test first before you buy.
 Some vendors might let you do this.

For instance, IBM is allowing anyone from my company to have an account on their
s390/Linux machines, since we are potential customers of that system.  I plan on
taking advantage of this.

Regards,
Matt



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