Author: Aaron Gordon
Date: 11:16:12 02/20/03
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On February 20, 2003 at 11:42:49, Robert Hyatt wrote: >That is _not_ the same idea. The idea that a vendor purposefully underclocks a >chip >is ridiculous. The idea that they don't release the next generation at a faster >clock rate >until the current supply of slower chips is exhausted is not contradictory at >all. Two >totally different business practices, one of which makes economic sense, the >other makes >zero sense. They make ALL of the chips off the same line. Why do you think you can run out and buy an AthlonXP 1700+ (1466MHz) with the Thoroughbred-B core for $56 and overclock it to 2.1-2.3GHz? Try that with one of the very first 1700+ chips, you will not get over 1.6GHz. Same thing goes for my old Celeron-2 566MHz. It does 1.1GHz (yes, 566 to 1100) air-cooled. This is a cC0 and basically is a P3-1GHz core with some L2 cache disabled. Intel and AMD both make the same stuff and mark it to whatever they feel is needed. If Celeron 566's are selling a lot, they'll start marking them 566 to meet demand. 2100+'s are selling like wild-fire, AMD is putting their latest and greatest silicon in those chips. You can pay $300 or whatever it costs for a 2800+ *OR* you can get a 2100+ with the *EXACT* same core for $97. You may know about programming, Hyatt, but you sure don't know about overclocking. I've been doing this all my life, I even built a liquid cooler when I was a kid (I think I was 13-14 years old or so). I mean completely built from scratch, evaporative radiator and all (the evaporation helps keep the water below-ambient). All my previous overclocks were 100% stable and infact I've still got some of those systems still today, chugging along running fine. Here are a few of my past overclocks: Celeron 300a @ 644MHz on an Abit BH6, water cooled + 76 watt peltier Celeron 366 @ 735MHz on an Abit Bx6-2, water cooled + 76 watt peltier Celeron 566 @ 1202MHz on an Abit Be6-2, water cooled + 172 watt peltier Athlon Thunderbird 1.0GHz @ 1.7GHz on an Abit KT7a modified, water cooled AthlonXP 1900+ (1.6GHz) @ 1.86GHz on an Asus A7V266-E and Epox 8k5a2, water cooled AthlonXP 1700+ (1.46GHz) @ 2.15GHz on an Epox 8k5a2, water cooled AthlonXP 2100+ (1.73GHz) @ 2.5GHz on an Epox 8k5a2, water cooled This is just scratching the surface, too. All of these systems were stable, some I have sold, etc. I still have the Tbird 1ghz and celeron 566, had'em for years running overclocked. Never had a problem.
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