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Subject: Re: $333.70 per elo point over my pc..

Author: Matt Taylor

Date: 10:48:13 02/21/03

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On February 21, 2003 at 09:51:34, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On February 21, 2003 at 05:31:35, Matt Taylor wrote:
>
>>On February 20, 2003 at 18:23:22, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>><snip>
>>>My cpus don't run blazing hot, although there is another significant performance
>>>difference
>>>in our boxes.  I can copy 8 gigs of data in 30 seconds.  That is important for
>>>chess endgames
>>>with tables.  I don't think you can get 1/10th of that speed with IDE drives of
>>>any kind.
>>>But that is yet a different subject.
>><snip>
>>
>>(2) Western Digital 80GB 8MB cache 7200 rpm
>>3ware 7000-2 RAID controller
>>
>>Buffered Read: 94 MB/sec
>>Sequential Read: 49 MB/sec
>>Random Read: 6 MB/sec
>>
>>Buffered Write: 87 MB/sec
>>Sequential Write: 58 MB/sec
>>Random Write: 12 MB/sec
>>
>>This would be 1.4 GB in 30 seconds. Nowhere near 8 GB, but it's more than 10%.
>>Also, this was done on an NT box using NTFS, and NTFS is notoriously slow.
>>Seeking all over a 7200 rpm drive really cripples the "sequential" speed.
>>
>>That is the low-end model RAID controller in 2-disk RAID-0. 8-disk RAID-0 is
>>pretty fast. They claim speeds up near 600 or 700 MB/sec in which case it would
>>be copying 18 GB in 30 seconds. The 7500-8 costs something like $350 or $250, I
>>believe. That array would be about $1,000. The 8500-8 is what I would use if
>>money were no object.
>>
>>-Matt
>
>I've got an 8-drive IDE raid array here we are playing with for backups, and
>it is _not_ fast.  This is an 8 x 250gig device and no, I don't remember who
>made it as it isn't ours (ours = CIS) it was an evaluation device from our
>IT folks up the street.  However, the random speed is more important than the
>sequential read for tablebases, and the 15K SCSI drives have 1/2 the latency
>of the best IDE drives so far that I have seen (7200 RPM).  I'll run the 8 gig
>copy on this array monday to get a number, but when I tried it last time it
>took over 5 minutes total.  Which is where I got my 10x number.
>
>Beware of claimed speeds also, as that is typically drive buffer to memory,
>which is not the same as copying large files where buffer means zero.

Throughput listed for Barracuda V drives is listed as 72 MB/sec.

Here is benchmark data for the Escalade in particular:
http://www.3ware.com/products/benchmarks.asp

For some reason, I was remembering it as 600-700 MB/sec. It is much lower, but
it still comes to around 6 GB over 30 sec sequential read speed, and that's on a
5400 rpm drive. The Barracuda V drives would abosolutely fly.

10K rpm ATA drives are coming. Western Digital will soon release a line of 10K
rpm Serial ATA drives, basically a SCSI drive on a Serial ATA interface. I think
rpms is really the -major- seperating factor between SCSI and ATA right now. A
good ATA RAID controller will do everything the SCSI disk already does.

-Matt



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