Author: David Rasmussen
Date: 12:36:48 02/22/03
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On February 22, 2003 at 13:38:19, Uri Blass wrote: >>What do you think is important to other people, specifically people using their >>computers all the time for intensively for developing? Reliability, stability >>and performance. I built all my computers myself for these reasons: >> >>1. The performance, reliability and stability of the computers I built is far >>greater than that of any pre-built machine, be it Dell, IBM, Compaq (*shudder*) >>or any other. >>2. It is far cheaper >>3. The quality of the components far exceeds that of any prebuilt computer. No >>Dell or IBM has a case as good as my Antec case, or a motherboard as extensively >>used and tested as my MSI motherboard > >1)I do not understand it. > >How is it possible? >In that case I expect that another company is going to go to the market and >build better machines for people for the same price. > Why? Companies want to make money. They set the price as high as they can while still making money. It's called supply and demand (and some other factors). >I thought that the people who build the prebuilt computers are not stupid. They aren't. They're making a lot of money. >How is it possible that they cannot do exactly the work that you do? > They can, but why should they? Most users don't know or don't care that they have a bad computer. Look at Compaq. As far as I know, they have the largest part of the the consumer home computer market. Their computers *SUCK*. All parts are crap, and they are badly setup. Still people will gladly pay whatever Compaq is charging. Why? Because most users have no idea about what a computer is, and they can't make demands or judge the quality of the product. They just assume that Compaq build good computers. It's really not that odd, it happens in all areas. Most consumers are idiots, and the world in general are at they mercy of multinational companies that rule the world, dictates politics in the US and the EU, pollutes the environment, makes people sick and puts toxics in our food. >The only reason that I can imagine is if the job of building computers in the >way that you do it is a hard work of many hundreds of hours even for people with >experience in building computers(I talk about human time and not machine time) Mmm. It doesn't really take longer to build than to build any other computer. Quite the opposite in fact. Because it is usually faster and easier to work in a good and welldesigned case, than in a crappy cheap case that every brand name uses for their machines. Mind you, I don't make the processors or that RAM myself :) I just buy the parts and assemble the machine. It's quite common, actually. There are many many forums on the internet about it. Look at http://www.edbpriser.dk . It is a price index in danish about computer parts. This page is made for 5 or 10 people in Denmark. It is made for the many many people in Denmark that buys their own parts and builds their own computeres. Some just buy a new hard disk or a new graphics card. But once you've assembled an entire computer (or a few), it's really not that hard. There are several guides on the internet, just search in google. Look at http://www.tomshardware.com or http://www.anandtech.com . They are hardware test and review sites. They are designed for the thousands upon thousands of people in the world that wants to know how motherboards with a certain chipset or for a certain kind of processor, compares, because they want to build their own computer. If IBM or Dell made a computer from such quality parts, it would probaby be priced two times as high as their normal machines. Not because the parts are extremely expensive. But because they are more expensive than the parts IBM normally uses. Why should they give up an 500% profit? How should they explain the difference to the users? >but even in that case I expect the best prebuilt computers not to have problems >because people who buy them want the best thing and I believe that a price that >is bigger by 1000$ is not a problem for them if they get better performance. > They don't get better performance. They get worse performance. In all respects, speed, noise, stability, lifetime, compatibility etc. It's the same deal as with food. If you want the best, you don't go to a supermarket and buy the most expensive readymade tv-dinner they have. You buy the fresh things you need to make the food from the ground up. Of course, you can go to good restaurants and get much better food than most people can make themselves. But there is no corresponding thing in the computer business. >2)I do not understand nothing about building computers. >How did you learn it? > By doing. If you want to learn it, the best thing is to get a friend who knows about it, to help you, or supervise you and guide you the first time. Both in the selecting and buying process (which is very important) and they building process. There are many pages on the net about it, just search in google. For example: http://www.google.com/search?hl=da&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=building+own+computer&lr= >Is there a link in the internet that give explanation step by step how to build >computers or do you need to learn a special course? > You don't need a special course, it's all common sense. But you have to be careful, and experience will make you better. >3)How much time did you spend per computer in order to build your computers? > The building process itself can be done in an hour or less. But usually, you take your time if you have it. It's not a good idea to be in a hurry. The idea of making a better computer is to make sure that _everything_ is good, the components and the assembly etc. But the researching/selecting/buying phase takes time too. You usually want to check out some motherboard reviews to find the motherboard you want etc. Usually, I use a couple of hours on selecting and researching, and a couple of hours in building it. /David
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