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Subject: Re: Mate in 9 with Qh5 -- Rb7 also a forced mate in 13 or less

Author: John Merlino

Date: 17:44:58 02/22/03

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On February 22, 2003 at 19:58:16, Art Basham wrote:

>Here the best move for white is Qh5...!
>
>[D]rn3k1r/p3n1pp/2p2p2/4N3/2Np4/8/q4PPP/1R1QR1K1 w - - 0 20
>
>This is an 8 ply move for my old WChess program..found in over three minutes...
>
>Saitek RISC finds it in about 63 seconds...

Apparently this is not a good test move for two reasons:

1) Finding Qh5 is probably very easy for any decent engine, as Chessmaster 9000
finds Qh5 instantly.

2) Rb7 is also a winning move! The King, playing a very good game of "PSYCHE!"
on its user, switches to Rb7 in 69 seconds with a much higher eval, and
eventually announces Mate in 13 with Rb7!
But THEN it announces Mate in 10 with Qh5!
And THEN it announces Mate in 9 with Qh5!

[this analysis done on a P3-733, so divide search times by four for today's top
single CPU boxes]

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/3	1.24	5008		20.Qh5 fxe5 21.Qxe5 h6 22.Qxe7+ Kg8
0:00	1/4	2.68	15453		20.Qh5 g6 21.Nxg6+ hxg6 22.Qxh8+
					Ng8 23.Rb7
0:00	1/5	5.11	54255		20.Qh5 fxe5 21.Qxe5 Nd7 22.Qxe7+
					Kg8 23.Qe6+ Kf8 24.Qd6+ Kg8 25.Qxc6
					Qxb1 26.Qd5+ Kf8 27.Rxb1
0:01	1/6	6.97	145689		20.Qh5 Qxc4 21.Nxc4 Nd7 22.Rb7
					Ne5 23.Nxe5 fxe5 24.Qxe5
0:03	1/7	8.82	316794		20.Qh5 Qxc4 21.Nxc4 Nd7 22.Rb7
					Rd8 23.Qa5 Re8 24.Rxd7
0:07	1/8	9.25	744241		20.Qh5 Qxc4 21.Nxc4 Nd7 22.Rb7
					Rd8 23.Qe2 Nd5 24.Rxd7 Rb8 25.Rxa7
0:20	1/9	9.47	2336339		20.Qh5 Qxc4 21.Nxc4 Nd7 22.Rb7
					Rd8 23.Qe2 Ne5 24.Nxe5 Re8 25.Nd7+
					Kf7 26.Rxa7
1:09	1/9	13.75	7653360		20.Rb7 Qa1 21.Qxa1 fxe5 22.Qa3
					Nd7 23.Rxd7 Re8 24.Qf3+ Kg8 25.Nd6
					h6 26.Nxe8
1:46	1/10	15.41	11361728	20.Rb7 Qa1 21.Qxa1 fxe5 22.Qa3
					Nd7 23.Rxd7 Re8 24.Qf3+ Kg8 25.Nd6
					h6 26.Qf7+ Kh7 27.Nxe8 Rxe8 28.Qxe8
5:10	2/11	Mate13	36865911	20.Rb7 c5 21.Qg4 fxe5 22.Rxe7 Kxe7
					23.Rxe5+ Kd8 24.Rd5+ Kc7 25.Rxc5+
					Nc6 26.Qxg7+ Kb8 27.Rb5+ Kc8 28.Qb7+
					Kd8 29.Rd5+ Ke8 30.Qd7+ Kf8 31.Rf5+
					Kg8 32.Qf7#
6:39	2/11	Mate10	48587424	20.Qh5 Qxc4 21.Nxc4 Nd7 22.Rb7
					Rd8 23.Nd6 Ne5 24.Rxe5 Ng6 25.Rbe7
					fxe5 26.Rxa7 Rxd6 27.Qf5+ Ke8 28.Qf7+
					Kd8 29.Ra8#
9:16	3/12	Mate09	69984580	20.Qh5 Qxc4 21.Nxc4 Nd7 22.Rb7
					Rd8 23.Nd6 Ne5 24.Rxe5 Ng6 25.Qf5
					Nxe5 26.Qe6 Nf3+ 27.gxf3 g6 28.Qf7#

jm



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