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Subject: Re: Pairing question about Ikarus

Author: Mike Byrne

Date: 06:59:34 02/23/03

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On February 23, 2003 at 07:17:50, Tony Werten wrote:

>On February 22, 2003 at 16:58:12, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On February 22, 2003 at 09:29:47, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>
>>>On February 22, 2003 at 09:25:16, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 22, 2003 at 08:54:30, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I read 6: Ikarus     3.5 /  6    2b= 13w+  1w=  4b=  3w- 14b+.
>>>>>
>>>>>So that means that Ikarus although playing the placed 1, 2, 3, 4 progs, it could
>>>>>get full points against the last and pre-last. Placed om 14 and 13.
>>>>>Is this ok? Something seems to be wrong or biased. Point is that a game against
>>>>>14 is a SURE win. That is as if a top program after a loss or two draws got a
>>>>>point for free. Note Ikarus had 2,5 pts before playing Matador with 0.5 pts.
>>>>>
>>>>>Could some expert explain why such things are still possible?
>>>>>
>>>>>Rolf Tueschen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Too few programs, too many rounds.
>>>
>>>Also, many progs get a "good" result and that is also a good side-effect we
>>>should consider. What would be the optimal number of rounds for 14 participants?
>>>
>>>Rolf Tueschen
>>
>>optimal number of rounds is log2(N) rounded up to the next integer value.
>>In this case 4 rounds, is optimal, 5 acceptable.
>
>That might be true in general, but depends on the participants. When 8 programs
>are very equal in strength, you want at least 7 rounds to make sure that there
>is at least a little chance they have played each other.
>
>Tony


You just described a round robin which is totally different - if you have 8
programs and 7 rounds, you play a round robim and every player will play each
other once.  The formula is for use in a swiss tournament.



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