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Subject: Speed Doubling Test and Elo Comparison

Author: Charles Worthington

Date: 10:25:51 02/23/03

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On February 22, 2003 at 22:07:48, Jeremiah Penery wrote:

>On February 22, 2003 at 20:30:53, Charles Worthington wrote:
>
>>On February 22, 2003 at 20:28:26, Charles Worthington wrote:
>>
>>>long. The notion that double speed equals 20 elo is totally wrong from my
>>>observation. The highest dual is at 3111 and the highest single is lucky to be
>>>at 2900...and even at 2900 he wont be there long if he plays all challengers.
>>
>>
>>In fact if you place a dual 2400mp in a 100 game match with a single 2400xp with
>>equal ratings to start with the dual will be a whole lot higher than 20 above
>>the single when they are done.
>
>I think people who say speed doubling equals 50(?) ELO are talking about
>controlled, long time control games under controlled settings.  In blitz games
>on the internet, where people use all kinds of hardware and software settings,
>perhaps changing them every game, the rating pool isn't very stable.  Blitz time
>controls tend to exaggerate the differences in hardware speed, because of
>diminishing returns of search depth with respect to time.  I.e., it takes more
>than twice as long to reach the next ply, so at some point the speed doubling
>will no longer give you any extra usable search depth.  This affect doesn't come
>much into play in blitz time controls.


Actually I never thought about it but it_would_be a fascinating experiment.
Unfortunately it would be almost impossible to conduct the experiment
scientifically without having both the single_and_dual here to test it. Also
identical opening books, RAM, etc. That would be an expensive test. But I could
run the test with my 3.06 xeons vs the 3.06 p4 but the workstation has a good
deal more ram and a better chipset so it wouldnt be 100% scientific but close
enough for all practical purposes i guess. I'll give it some though. Does anyone
have a link where I can download the 2600.ctg to conduct the test with?



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