Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 21:03:08 02/23/03
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On February 23, 2003 at 22:48:35, Jeremiah Penery wrote: >On February 23, 2003 at 21:25:04, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On February 23, 2003 at 01:50:31, Jeremiah Penery wrote: >> >>>On February 23, 2003 at 00:53:51, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On February 22, 2003 at 20:06:44, Jeremiah Penery wrote: >>>> >>>>>If you don't like SPEC, look at TPC numbers. >>>> >>>>Let's back up to reality a minute. Servers have one type of requirement. >>>>workstations have another. I'm not about to talk about the PC platform as >>>>a high-performance server. It is _not_. The raw PCI bus is completely >>>>unable to sustain the kind of bandwidth that the high-end server market is >>>>all about, and that is a problem. Doesn't matter how fast the CPU goes. >>>> >>>>Just compare the I/O bandwidth of "server machines" with the I/O bandwidth >>>>of a PC and you will see what I mean. >>> >>>Do you have any clue what TPC benchmarks are all about? No, I thought not. TPC >>>are SERVER benchmarks, heavily stressing on I/O performance! >> >>And look at the machines you quote. Who cares about a machine that is a big >>cluster of slow machines that can handle a large TPC? Just because such >>cluster architectures dominate some particular niche, doesn't mean they work >>for all large server applications. >> >>Dunn and Bradstreet in NY comes to mind. But so do others. >> >> >>Any time you want to compare I/O throughput on any PC of your choice against >>an alpha server here, I'll provide some benchmark data. But we are talking >>about a database that is _not_ split into tiny parts on a pile of PCs. One >>database, on one machine, spread over say 64 drives... >> >>The PC simply doesn't address that market. The NUMA Itaniums are up there >>of course but they aren't PCs. > >You seem to be ignoring that TPC-W has non-clustered x86 machines in the lead. Where? Didn't see a one that wasn't a NUMA-type box with each machine having its own I/O.... I may have overlooked something of course.
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