Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 06:13:53 02/24/03
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On February 24, 2003 at 07:00:47, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >Thorsten, what are you doing all day long? in opposite to you: i do computerchess. visit my friends. drive to tournaments. >Are you not even aware of? Look into >your own comments on the progress of the final round in Paderborn. It was a >reveiling confession about your own emotions about the expected or feared >result. I wished that you could take all that with more objectivity. objectivity would exist if we would be objects. since we are subjects, we live in subjectivity. is this SO difficult ? or are you an object ? > Then with >your experience you were a really good expert. Also didn't you notice your own >insinuating of some stuff not so koscher? not so koscher ?? i was wondering why the game is continued. From my point of view shredder had no choice to win this game anymore. so i asked myself: why is he continuing this game. >Fact is that Stefan already in Maastricht let JUNIOR have it's spin, when the >planned show event against Kasparov already was near. i don't know anything about kasparov. human chess does not interest me. it is all faked PR-gag. > Yesterday's lost is >something that no linger counted because Fritz already was through. I still ask >if there isn't a sort of button the operator could secretely push for such >decisions, "go for the kill", "now only seek a draw by all means even if there >might be a win" etc.? Because it's strange. There was a period when both, YACE >and SHREDDER repeated motifs and moves and then suddenly after the end in the >FRITZ game they went into a different mode. Suddenly Yace took c2 and the whole >game went into a different essence. there was no repetition of the position possible, there was maybe even the 50 move draw-rule influencing the decision of the programs. shredder was + so he was not interested in a draw. since there was no other possiblity left to continue the game, the programs chose this line as a way out. >I was always sure that Stefan had such features because SHREDDER was always >worse the moment other operators did their work. you suggest that the operator manipulates by pressing buttons or clicking somewhere, the real manipulation happens when the MIND of the operator influences the moves of the program with his thoughts. since nobody believes that this can happen, nobody will ever be able to proof this wrong or right. IMO the expectation/emotion of the operator influences the outcome of the experiment. This is - btw - common in physics. so why should it not be a law in computerchess too. Jesus knew about this, in Matthew17/20 he says: "And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. " if you believe in something, you can change the facts and the world "out-there". in fact there is no difference between your thoughts and the world out there. the world out there is a product of the thoughts of you and the people. and "believe" is the power to make objects move and remove. you are a machine. your job is to think. the thoughts can change something, if you believe in it. there is no difference between materia alive or dead. subject and object are ONE of the same machine, only different degrees. no god needs to be invented to blow the breath into materia to make it alive. it is alive before god breathes into it. the job of the evolution is to increase the quality of the collected information. make the machine more and more perfect. that is what you do in life, what computerchess programmers do in chess. they make their programs more and more perfect. that is the sense of the universe. you have to forget that the materia can only be changed by force of the hand or the mouse-driver. the brain of you can directly attach the brain of a machine. because in a cpu the same happens that happens in you, only less complex. the same electrons get moved. the same physics. if an operator is not believing into his program, the program blunders. thats all the magic about operation. there is no cheating. > This is not by chance if it >happens 4 or 5 times in a row. These reflections have nothing to do with >conspiracy fairy tales! > >Rolf Tueschen the only one talking about conspiracy is you. i know what happens when operating a program. i have done so. you get ONE.
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