Author: Tony Hedlund
Date: 10:36:50 02/24/03
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On February 23, 2003 at 13:37:49, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On February 23, 2003 at 11:29:20, Tony Hedlund wrote: > >>On February 23, 2003 at 05:57:59, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >> >>>On February 23, 2003 at 04:50:42, Janosch Zwerensky wrote: >>> >>>>> You can't compare apples and peas. :) >>>> >>>>The mathematics behind both lists is quite similar (except for the fact that >>>>FIDE, or anyone else in human-vs-human-chess for that matter, doesn't give >>>>confidence intervals for their numbers), isn't it? >>> >>>It is, but - >>> >>>It is forbidden to apply a mathematical routine in different fields and then >>>simply take the results for comparisons or even call them equally valide or >>>whatever. E.g. I never saw a human player get "2700" Elopoints days after his >>>birth... Not that it matters. >> >>But after have played +500 games it/he/she can have +2700 doesn't it/he/she? >> > >Depends. Against grandma? Against 5 computer progs? Or against 420 different >masters and GM? - Tony, before you get excited too early let me confirm you >that the SSDF games, maybe 800 of a new program version against 8 +/- 2 >opponents is NOT sufficient so far. So I'm sorry, your invoice was rejected by >the Grand Jury. And sorry, games against Mephisto II and Complete Chess System >cannot be accepted because of different species. Rolf, it's a pity that you don't understand how a ratinglist is created and how professor Arpad Elo's system works. >P.S. Matador started with 2400 in Paderborn, which is a bit of a joke. >Unfortunately nobody seems to know what 2400 really means. <sigh> > >Tony, if you in SSDF would lower your overall level from 2700 to 2300 I could >see some hope. But this should be started as late as March the first, and >without conditional delay. Otherwise my reports will be negative next month. Rolf, do you still compare FIDE-elo with SSDF-elo? Please don't! They are two different pools of players. Tony >Time has run out for you! > >:) > > >Rolf Tueschen > > > > >>Tony >> >>>Rolf Tueschen
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