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Subject: Re: Dangers in CC - The Mania of Free Products

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 13:44:11 02/24/03

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On February 24, 2003 at 16:21:00, Mike S. wrote:

>On February 24, 2003 at 06:15:22, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>(...)
>>Two points. Could you specify what you mean with "trying harder". The question
>>is if a project like LINUX doesn't contradict your proposition. What if the
>>cooperation is better than the often arrogant support by the company?
>
>Thinking of GUI and/or engine features, companies have always found new
>functions and/or improvements, and I expect this will continue. For example, the
>Full Analysis feature of the Fritz GUI is something very advanced (compared to
>that, freeware auto analysis functions are primitive), or Fritz' book tree
>functions... although, SCID has tree functions too (but AFAIK not for use as an
>engine's opening book). Or the Endgame Joker Analysis and Endgame Orakel of the
>Shredder classic GUI, or the large amounts of learning material in Chessmaster
>with long Josh Waitzkin audio commentary. These are things which make the
>important differences between free and commercial chess software IMO, and I'm
>sure the companies will come up with more like that.
>
>(Although I wouldn't complain if they would just drop the prices "under the
>threat of freeware" if they run out of new ideas...)
>
>A simpler thing to compare is, how *variations* (in the game's notation) are
>treated and shown. While SCID shows them "book-like" and clickable like good
>chess software does, other freeware cannot; many have only the 2-columns
>display. But that isn't something new commercial software has, though.
>
>>Honestly I doubt that I would be treated like I was when I dared to ask where my
>>favorite feature had remained, amely the Crtl-I for the content of the notation
>>of a game! That is simply gone in the new CB7&8.

Here is the exact explanation for Crtl-I -

It is the output of a number of the moves in a notation, main line plus
variations. You know what I mean?  A number so that you can compare a highly
commented version of a game. Excuse my English.

Rolf Tueschen



>You already answered in CSS but
>
>(can't remember... it seems there is no keyboard shortcut in CB7 for that.)
>
>>there is no solution until today.
>
>If you have Fritz 7 or -8 available, you could use it alternatively in cases
>when that function is required often, and you want to use a keyboard shortcut.
>It can access the same databases anyway. Standard is CTRL-C in Fritz, which
>copies the notation to the clipboard, but since version 7 you can re-define the
>shortcuts. So you could even change it to CTRL-I.
>
>Das ist unter "Extras, Anpassen".
>
>I've read that in F8, you can also choose now if it shall copy a text-style
>notation or PGN for pasting into text applications (?).
>
>>Thanks again for the many interesting answers.
>
>You're welcome. I found the topic interesting, being impressed by the convincing
>quality of these many good freeware chess programs and engines.
>
>Regards,
>M.Scheidl



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