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Subject: Re: Dangers in CC - SSDF: Terminology, Statistics

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 10:59:50 02/25/03

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On February 25, 2003 at 11:33:25, Tony Hedlund wrote:

>On February 24, 2003 at 15:42:32, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
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>>On February 24, 2003 at 13:36:50, Tony Hedlund wrote:
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>>>Rolf, do you still compare FIDE-elo with SSDF-elo? Please don't! They are two
>>>different pools of players.
>>>
>>>Tony
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>>Accepted, if you promise that 2700 Elo in SSDF is from now on written as
>>
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>>                 2700 *SSDF*-Elo
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>>Fair enough? (Only to avoid that naive readers in the journals read 2700 Elo -
>>FIDE mode)...
>
>Why would that be necessary? We present:
>"THE SSDF RATING LIST xxx games played by  xxx computers."
>How could anyone make that to be human elo?


How? People read here from Amir that Junior plays on SUPER GM level. I conclude
that because these super GM have >2700 Elo Junior also has 2700 Elo! I inform my
Aunt Miss Moneypenny. She goes into a shop and asks for the super GM pogram with
2700 Elo. The shop owner didn't have JUNIOR, he says, butz you can take FRITZ,
that is also a 2700 Elo program that is as strong as Kramnik and Kramnik is the
best player at the moment, he has won a match against Kasparov . He says, he
read in the advertisement of ChessBase that Fritz was number one there with Elo
>2700.

Tony, this is shocking!

Very tricky of you. Yes, if you would work with Elo of 1000 -1500 you could well
do it. But you were smart enough to take exactly the range of human Elo. Very
tricky indeed. And you are innocent because when you say 2700 for Fritz
everybody, also my Aunt Moneypenny must know that your 2700 is NOT the 2700 of
super GM. Oh yes! Very tricky.

But 3 experts somewhere in the World do know what you are doig there in Sweden.
So it is all fine!     NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Tony, I like the SSDF list and its people like my brothers. And it always breaks
my heart when I must answer questions  about the SSDF mistakes because I am
always asked as an expert in statistics. But don't ask me what people like
Daniel think about me! So - it is, because you don't want to correct your bad
traditions, I am crucified, because I was the one who explained what is wrong.
Please help me, Tony! Give Peace a chance.


Rolf Tueschen




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