Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 04:05:27 02/27/03
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On February 27, 2003 at 01:33:31, Harald Faber wrote:
>You must know that Rolfs only intention is to criticize lists, elo and
>(elo-)formulas. He has never provided any MATERIAL (=games) to strengthen
>other/his ideas. Alternative data is totally missing.
>
>I admit that I am kind of pissed that Rolf trolls around here in CCC after the
>CCC has been founded from off the rgcc because of guys like Rolf.
>A pity.
This itself is a very good example for trolls. Harold, also a former moderator,
and from Germany, [where most of those came from who followed undemocratic
traditions during the change from rgcc to ccc; I can well give the names if
someone wants it], is a symbol for those who
- love computerchess
- present their "test results" from autoplayer games
- have no time to discuss the sense of the naked data
- are unable to understand the meaning of a general and basic critic
- therefore take such critics as a personal attack against their hobby
- then instead of training in tolerance go into biting mode of extinction
- misunderstand the meaning of challenge & refutations
- can only imagine such refutations on the same level they do tests
- can't get that sometimes tests are pretty meaningless
- misinterprete their own activity as the only imaginable one
- misuse the charta which forbids personal attacks (troll, pissed [!])
- misuse their "expert" status for exerting power in a social group
I could give more such items. The most illogical argument is in fact that the
activities of the average "tester" could only be challenged with "alternative"
data [apparently imaginable only as the same sort of testings only with
_different_ results] and not with a totally different approach. So it's always
the same. Thoughts are more important than material, in special if material is
based on mistaken thoughts.
Rolf Tueschen
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