Author: Mike Byrne
Date: 04:53:07 03/04/03
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On March 04, 2003 at 07:31:18, Uri Blass wrote: >On March 04, 2003 at 07:10:21, Mike Byrne wrote: > >>On March 04, 2003 at 02:36:53, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On March 03, 2003 at 19:01:47, Mike Byrne wrote: >>> >>>>On March 03, 2003 at 19:00:53, Mike Byrne wrote: >>>> >>>>>Dual 1.8 Ghz >>>>>Hiarcs Book >>>>>Ponder ON >>>>>CB GUI >>>>> >>>>>Very nice result against this modified Crafty "x" personlity. >>> >>>Do you have results of that modified Crafty x personality against other programs >>>in the same condition? >>> >>>If losing 47-37 against Crafty X is a very nice result for a commercial program >>>then it means that this Crafty X is very strong and probably can beat also >>>Ruffian,Sos3.Yace,List in the same conditions(maybe even with higher score). >>> >>>Uri >> >>I don't follow your logic - >> >>1. We're talking blitz -- not long games. To me blitz does not really >>establish strength of engine at long games. To me a true measure of engine >>stength is how well it does at long games. >> >>2. We're talking commercial engine yes - but just two months ago it was >>considered amatuer. Quantum leaps in strength do happen very often. Just >>because Deep Sjeng is now commercial does not automatically place it at the top >>of the amatuer engine list in strength. > >Yes, but I read a claim that it is 200 elo better than Sjeng12.13 and sjeng12.13 >is not supposed to be better than 200 elo worse than crafty. > >I also read matches when Deep Sjeng beated crafty convincingly and people asked >about results against Ruffian. > >After seeing it losing 47-37 then the result is a clear disappointment. > >I do not say that losing 47-37 against crafty is always a disappointment for a >commercial engine and the disappointment is mainly because of the claim that >Deep Sjeng is significantly better than Sjeng12.13 when Sjeng12.13 is supposed >to be only slightly weaker than crafty based on results that GCP posted in the >winboard forum(the results were not in long time control games). > >I also remember that GCP claimed that Deep Sjeng is already better than Crafty >in this forum. > >Uri This is blitz game/5. It does not say anything about LTC. It's too early to tell yet.
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