Author: Drexel,Michael
Date: 14:36:57 03/04/03
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On March 04, 2003 at 17:18:18, Chessfun wrote: >On March 04, 2003 at 16:51:28, Drexel,Michael wrote: > >>On March 04, 2003 at 16:32:18, Chessfun wrote: >> >>>On March 04, 2003 at 16:26:24, Drexel,Michael wrote: >>> >>>>On March 04, 2003 at 15:58:36, Chessfun wrote: >>>> >>>>>On March 04, 2003 at 15:40:55, Drexel,Michael wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>In the Lokasoft Forum Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>also, any chance of ever getting the book converted to CB format? >>>>>> >>>>>>"I already asked ChessBase about the needed information to convert the book, and >>>>>>they refused to give it to me". >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I intend to buy the new Gandalf 6 as soon as it will be available (with or >>>>>>without opening book). >>>>>>I also intend to use it mainly in the Chessbase GUI. Like most users I need >>>>>>*.cbh-database suppport because nearly all my bases are *.cbh-databases . >>>>>> >>>>>>IMO you should give the owners of your program the possibility to convert >>>>>>a Gandalf book in *.ctg-format. At least a smaller tournament version. >>>>>>I think there is no need to get the information to convert the book from >>>>>>chessbase. >>>>>>You could release a Gandalf6.mvs book for example. I hope Ed Schröder would >>>>>>kindly give you the necessary informations. All CB users can convert the >>>>>>*.mvs-books in a Chessbase tree with the import old book function of Fritz. >>>>>>There might be some problems regarding the weights of moves. >>>>>>However such a special tournament book could be worth the extra work. >>>>>>Dont forget that nearly all your potential customers own at least one Chessbase >>>>>>product. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Why? Gandalf will use it's own book in a CB interface. >>>>>Sure you can't use it for other programs but that is after all the intent. >>>>> >>>>>Sarah. >>>>> >>>> >>>>Who wants to use the Gandalf book for other commercial programs? I see no reason >>>>to prevent it. >>>>Of course it is much easier to alter a book directly in the GUI. It is much more >>>>user-friendly. >>> >>> >>>Not talking of a reason to prevent it. The book is designed to run with the >>>engine "Gandalf" this it does in CP it's native interface as well as Winboard or >>>any CB interface. >>> >>>Why would you want to alter Gandalf's book when it has been optimized for >>>Gandalf's play?. >> >>I dont, I prefer to create my own book with my favourite variations in it. >>However I think many people want to alter opening books if they discover their >>programs didnt perform well in a special opening variation. The book might be >>optimized for Gandalf but its surely not optimally. > > >Optimized for Gandalf, believe me means, optimized for Gandalf. > >Further were you to want Gandalf to play other moves within given book lines or >even a line that don't exist you can simply make a *.bk file for the book. > >I own Shredder 7 which is UCI and runs in my ChessPartner interface, can you >tell me how I can use it's book in ChessPartner? > > >>> >>>Personally I'm much more interested in seeing a UCI Fritz hmm odd how not having >>>one didn't seem to matter to selling Fritz. Or how about *.ctg to Pgn conversion >>>tool for CB users........To each his own. >>> >>>Sarah. >> >>*.ctg is a tree. Trees can not easily be converted in pgn files. > >That was my point !! > >>Chessbase is unfortunately the market leader (at least in Germany), Lokasoft >>not. Therefore UCI Fritz in the future is highly unlikely. It could be used >>in Chess Assistant. > >Actually I think Chessmaster is the market leader (not sure about Germany). > >Shredder is a Chessbase program and yet I can run Shredder 7 in Chess Partner, >(why not Fritz) now if only Chessbase allowed me some way to convert >Shredder7.ctg or Shredder7.bkt to a Shredder7.bk so I could run Shredder >properly in Chess Partner.!!. > Chessbase wouldnt sell more programs if they would allow it. Im not sure about Lokasoft vice versa though. >Seems a similar thing, maybe worse since I can't use any standard Shredder book >in CP, wheras at least in a CB gui you can use Gandalf's book. > >Sarah.
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