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Subject: Re: Suggestion to Dan Wulff and Steen Suurballe: Gandalf 6 opening book

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 07:02:20 03/05/03

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On March 04, 2003 at 18:19:33, Thomas Mayer wrote:

>Hi Michael,
>
>>>> I dont want Chessbase standards. I dont want Microsoft standards either.
>>>> Unfortunately many programs I use ONLY run on these platforms.
>
>>> The question is: who is to blame for that ? The programs that run on
>>> different platforms ???
>
>>Initially it was a suggestion. I thought they could sell more programs.
>>I didnt blame anyone.
>
>well, as long you can use Gandalfs book under any GUI (and that IS the case
>afaik) I don't see why they should sell less... And I think that even ChessBase
>may sell more when there engines would be UCIs - simply because they would get
>interesting for e.g. ChessAssistant users... and could be used with the
>UCI2WB-Adapter in ChessMaster etc...
>But it's dreaming - each company must calculate the costs and the payback -
>might be complicate for the Fritz team to convert Fritz in an UCI compliant
>engine and it is unsure if there will ever be a payback for that... Anyway I
>would really like to see an UCI Fritz, Hiarcs, Junior

I would like to see a Winboard Fritz to use it in SCID :-)
UCI-Shredder refused to work in SCID with Pfisters WB2UCI adapter.

>
>>>> There are only two commercial databases available.
>
>>> Don't forget Chess Academy - and for what are you using databases ? For
>>> analysis, right ?! So well, in case of ChessAssistant and ChessAcademy you
>>> can use all WinBoard and all UCI engines for analysis... afaik you can not
>>> even use UCI engines in the Chessbase database... (might be wrong for the
>>> newest >version...) So why do you need the book ?
>
>> Yes, Bookup is commercial too. Maybe they are not so bad but they are surely
>> not popular.
>> You dont use databases only for analysis.
>
>For what else are you using ChessBase database ? Afaik you can't play with it...
>(unlike ChessAssistant which is a full playing program...)

Database programs are used for maintenance of big databases too.
sort,repair,classify,find doubles,find games....etc.


>
>> In Shredder 7 and Fritz 7,8 GUIs you can use UCI engines. They have limited
>> database functions.
>
>Don't get your point - above you were talking about two databases and now Fritz
>7,8 GUI is a database ? Well, of course you are right that the database
>capabilities of Fritz GUI are better then in ChessPartner or in the wonderful
>Shredder-GUI - but they are also there... And I am quite sure that Lex will work
>on that even more in the future...
>
>Greets, Thomas

It is much easier to provide full support for CA and/or CB users than to improve
the own GUI. After visiting the website it seems to me the GUI is attractive for
ICC members and Computerchess freaks, not for the average Chessplayer.
Is it possible to open CA databases and CB databases with the Lokasoft GUI?
Can you read all the annotations,symbols,etc.?
You can search positions comfortable in CB or CA.





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