Author: Eduard Nemeth
Date: 06:56:49 03/07/03
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On March 07, 2003 at 09:25:07, Uri Blass wrote: >On March 07, 2003 at 09:05:59, Drexel,Michael wrote: > >>On March 07, 2003 at 06:46:33, Mike Hood wrote: >> >>>On March 07, 2003 at 01:28:43, Drexel,Michael wrote: >>> >>>>On March 06, 2003 at 22:58:42, Eduard Nemeth wrote: >>>> >>>>>First moves are: 1.e4 Nf6 2.Bc4 c6 3.a3 >>>>> >>>>>[D]rnbqkb1r/pp1ppppp/2p2n2/8/2B1P3/P7/1PPP1PPP/RNBQK1NR b KQkq - 0 1 >>>>> >>>>>Fritz 8.0023 played now nit Nxe4. :( >>>>> >>>>>Fritz 8.005 does it! :) >>>>> >>>>>My full german message read here: >>>>> >>>>>http://f50.parsimony.net/forum202029/messages/28.htm >>>>> >>>>>Eduard >>>> >>>> >>>>So what?? He searched 24 hours to find a bug and then he came up with this?? >>>> >>>>Fritz 8.0.0.23 would play 3...d5 with big advantage already. After 3 moves with >>>>the black pieces. >>>>That is exactly what I want to see. >>>>Its just silly to allow any complications if there is a safe way to get the full >>>>point. >>>> >>>>Btw, Fritz 8 would never play 2...c6 and this move is also not in the Fritz8.ctg >>>>tree. >>>> >>>>No chessplayer (except Eduard) would like to analyse such crap (3.a3??). >>> >>>Hey! Why do you say that? When testing a chess engine (it's really a matter for >>>beta tests, not post-release tests) all moves have to be analysed, not just the >>>"sensible" moves. And when using a chess engine, everyone uses it in different >>>ways. Despite having powerhouses like Fritz and Shredder on my PC, I still play >>>most of my games against Goliath Light. I used to use Fritz to analyse my club >>>games, but I've discovered that since version 7 Shredder is a better choice. All >>>I'm saying is that everyone uses his chess engine(s) of choice in different >>>ways. >> >>The answer is obvious. >>Frans Morsch tries to improve his engine regarding to practical play. >>If the new engines perform worse than old engines CB would have a problem. >>If the new engines are not as good for analysis than old ones they have >>no problems at all. Sad but true. >>Almost all average users who dont buy everything look at ratings and then decide >>to buy the programs with the highest ratings and a decent GUI. >> >>If you are interested in this rather meaningless positions of course feel free >>to analyse them with your engine. However you wont learn anything important to >>improve your play. >> >>This is of course only a minor update. the big improvements will come with Deep >>Fritz 8 and Fritz 9. > >I did not have time to test it but I am not sure if it is an improvement. >I continue to use 8.0.0.8 > >I have no time to test if 8.0.0.23 is better or worse and I wait to see >results of independent testers before I decide if to download 8.0.0.23 > >8.0.0.8 was reported as strong by mark young. >I know nothing about the level of 8.0.0.23 and I prefer to use 8.0.0.8 >and not 8.0.0.23 > >Uri A praktical engine like F8.0023 is for analyses in my eyes not the right way. I can also be never sure, is my Analysis right or not? This is the critical point. When I be not sure why do?????????? Used another Engine or old engines!!! (in ENG-ENG Matches "only" we can not know what a performance have this new Engine in eyes by Humans) I need never see this Phantasie-Engines Like Fritz 8.00xx :( Frans besinne dich zu den alten Tugenden von Fritz, wo es nicht nötig war solche KRÜCKEN zu implementieren. Danke! Eduard
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