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Subject: Re: what program is best to play correspondece chess against humans?

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 04:27:45 03/10/03

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On March 10, 2003 at 06:40:07, Drexel,Michael wrote:

>On March 10, 2003 at 05:58:13, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On March 10, 2003 at 05:34:07, emerson tan wrote:
>>
>>>what program is best to play correspondece chess against humans?
>>
>>Unless you are playing against Victor Palciauskas, Shredder 7 or Deep Fritz
>>should be excellent programs to analyze any position.
>
>Not exactly true
>
>Now the challenge would be
>>the chess knowledge the the user has, in case the program choose the wrong move,
>>since you have to be able to select the best move based on your knowledge
>>of the position. This is where the combination of a good program such as
>>Shredder 7.04 and a good correspondence chess player like Steve Ham can make a
>>world of a difference.
>>
>>Jorge
>
>Shredder 7 is not the best for Correspondence game analysis.
>The evaluations are not stable and therefore you cant trust them.
>It show you +1.22 in a position and you think this has to be big advantage for
>white and when you make the move suggested you get -0.09. You make another move
>and you will get +1.34 again. and so on.
>
>Fritz 8.008 or Fritz 7.008 are much better for Analysis mode.
>Shredder 7 might be good for over night analysis.
>It is also good for the endgame and it might be good to find ideas in the
>middlegame.


Probably I was wrong to recomend Shredder 7.04, but in correspondence Chess even
if you choose Fritz 8.0008 or Hiarcs 8 for Analysis mode it won't be sufficient
against a strong correspondence player; not to even mention  Victor
the World correspondence chess champion. I remembered back when Mike Valvo
crushed pretty badly DT in a 2 games match. Mike crushed it even though DT was
thinking many hours per move, and hitting 30 plies in its search. I remember
reading how shocked the programmers were at how badly the program lost. But
probably by now chess programs such as: Hiarcs 8 and Deep Fritz have progressed
to the point where they don't get crushed by IM like Mike Valvo, but players
like Victor Palciauskas (Correspondence World Champion) can still beat any
program in Correspondence Chess.

Jorge



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