Author: Uri Blass
Date: 07:11:38 03/11/03
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On March 11, 2003 at 05:55:37, Thomas Lagershausen wrote: >On March 11, 2003 at 03:31:45, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On March 11, 2003 at 02:59:44, Derek Paquette wrote: >> >>>Its great that a game vs DS is being organized on ICC, i'm definately going to >>>watch! However, why not get a game organized using Rebel 12 (beta1) which >>>Ed S. said was the strongest? Maybe use it vs the same GM, in a second game, >>>as the same color, see how each play it out. I think that would be more >>>interesting, than the switching of personalities, but the switching of engines. >>>I'd love to see rebel kicking ass, according to their site, its never lost a >>>match vs a human >>> >>>thoughts? >>>-Derek >> >>I think that using results of old Rebel is irrelevant because the question is >>about new programs and not about old programs. >> >>I do not see why a match against a human in fast time control is so interesting >>to watch. >> >>top programs already drew against super GM's at 120/40 so the only way to make >>a game/60 against a GM interesting is not to use the best program or to use a >>slow hardware or to use rules that help humans(for example every side has the >>right to take back moves in the game but not more than 3 times and the clocks >>are not changed when the side take back moves). >> >>I do not see what is the interest in a match when the computer is a clear >>favourite. >> >>Uri > >First, to name Rebel a old program is very very under any good taste.Rebel is as >good as any other topprogram but with its own style. I only said that the results of Rebel against humans are results of old rebel. I did not claim that Rebel is weak and I guess that later version of rebel is stronger than old Rebel. My point is that there is no way to use the results of Rebel against humans to say that Rebel is better than other programs against humans because if we use results of programs against humans then the latest programs also did not lose a match against humans. > >What about a match between Movie and Rebel? I did not claim that movei is better than Rebel and I am sure that Rebel is going to beat movei of today in a match. If people want to do it I have no objection. I expect movei to get 10-30%. Uri
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