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Subject: Re: what program is best to play correspondece chess against humans?

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 11:38:25 03/11/03

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On March 11, 2003 at 14:33:37, Uri Blass wrote:

>On March 11, 2003 at 14:10:26, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>
>>On March 11, 2003 at 13:08:01, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On March 11, 2003 at 05:56:08, Peter Berger wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 10, 2003 at 13:44:12, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On March 10, 2003 at 12:17:36, Peter Berger wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I did not look at the games but using a computer does not mean to play
>>>>>computer moves.
>>>>>
>>>>>Computers can be used for analysis of positions that is not on the board
>>>>>and I think that giving computer hours to analyze when you sleep may give more
>>>>>information so it is better than nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>>I tend to believe that the top players do everything to help them and it
>>>>>includes using computers.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I agree - it seems corresponcence chess is a dying sport. In maybe 10 years due
>>>>to advances in hardware (and software, too) chessprograms will be virtually
>>>>unbeatable. At this time top level correspondence chess will most likely be a
>>>>battle of clever computer operators.
>>
>>Humans with the help of computers (not vice versa) will be clearly stronger than
>>all computerprograms in 10 years too.
>>Do you understand anything about Analysing with a computer?
>>Do you know how deep one can get in a typical middlegame position?
>>Especially if you know from experience which moves the computer oppponents
>>prefer.
>>Do you know what ply 20,30,40 really means?
>>I hope so, but I have doubts when I read your statements.
>>Artificial intelligence or Quantum computers are "necessary" to play (almost for
>>AI) perfect chess. Not in the next 10 years of course.
>>
>>Michael
>
>You may be right if you assume only hardware progress but
>I think that you underestimate the possible progress in software that can
>be done.
>
>Uri





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