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Subject: Re: What openings do programs play best?

Author: Matthew White

Date: 13:01:07 03/11/03

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On March 10, 2003 at 09:25:06, Jonas Cohonas wrote:

>On March 10, 2003 at 08:56:48, Jim Monaghan wrote:
>
>>On March 10, 2003 at 08:13:54, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>
>>>Has there been made any statistic overview over what openings the say top 15
>>>prgrams on the SSDF list, plays the best(individually that is). For eaxample
>>>what opening choice on the first move is best for Shredder 7 from a statistical
>>>point of view? of course this could be made more complex, but should do for now
>>>:)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>Jonas
>>
>>Hi Jonas,
>>
>>I found 160 SSDF Shredder 7 games on Tony's site. Here's the stats for White:
>>
>>Move     #       1-0      0-1      =      %
>>1.e4     38      18        6       14     65.8
>>1.d4     25       6        6       13     50.0
>>1.c4      8       4        2        2     62.5
>>1.Nf3     9       6        0        3     83.3
>>Total    80      34       14       32     62.5
>>
>>And as Black:
>>Move     #       1-0      0-1      =      %
>>1.e4     32       8       16       8      62.5
>>1.d4     38      11       11      16      50.0
>>1.Nf3     4       0        2       2      75.0
>>1.c4      5       1        2       2      60.0
>>1.b3      1       0        1       0     100.0
>>Total    80      20       32      28      57.5
>>
>>Pretty impressive performance. BTW, Shredder's performance as Black in the
>>Sicilian is:
>>Move     #       1-0      0-1      =      %
>>1...c5   19       4       10        5     65.8
>>
>>The answer to your question is 1.Nf3! based on only 9 games though. 1.e4 also
>>looks good, certainly better then 1.d4.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Jim
>
>Thank you for your answer, that is great!
>
>I think that it would be interesting to do more statistics like this, especially
>to see if the different programs score very differently or very similar (which
>could be a good indication of what openings work or don't work in compchess)
>
>Maybe someone could make a program ala' elostat which could calibrate from a pgn
>file all the statistics needed from all the individual entries, based on
>openings and their sucess rate + a bunch of other obvious and less obvious
>functions.
>
>Regards
>Jonas

Scid is fantastic in this respect. It can create an opening report based on ECO
code for a single player.

Matt



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