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Subject: Uri look at the results.

Author: Mark Young

Date: 17:38:46 03/12/03

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On March 12, 2003 at 15:25:41, Uri Blass wrote:

>On March 12, 2003 at 14:37:17, Mike Hood wrote:
>
>>On March 12, 2003 at 11:43:29, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>
>>>On March 12, 2003 at 11:35:24, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>Ich möchte Frans Morsch schreiben (wegen betatets).
>>>
>>>
>>>Fritz is not tested in beta-tests. the customer is the beta-tester :-)
>>
>>As far as I know, new GUIs are put through a beta test process, but the engines
>>are not beta-tested, on the assumption that the programmer of an engine knows
>>best how to test it himself.
>
>I do not understand
>
>1)It seems to me that the assumption that the programmer of an engine knows best
>how to test the engine does not contradict the conjecture that beta testers may
>help the programmer to develop a better version.
>
>2)It seems to me that the programmer has not infinite computer time and beta
>testers may use computer time to help him.
>
>3)It seems to me that there are also cases when beta testers give productive
>ideas for chess programs.
>
>Even if the programmer knows better it does not mean that other people cannot
>contribute.
>
>Can you explain what is the error in my assumptions or in my logic and why do
>you think that the best that I can do is never to send movei to beta testers?

As far as I know Fritz has been the strongest engine over time then any other
chess program, looking at the SSDF list.

I think Fritz has held the Top Spot more and longer then any other program. If
this is true why would he what to change? It seems to me he does know best, and
his testing methods have been better then other programmers. Fritz's results
prove it.


>
>As far as I know based on reading this forum in the past there are non
>programmers who test new engines before they become commercial including
>commercial engines like Shredder or Tiger or Deep Sjeng.
>
>Uri



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