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Subject: Re: Interesting game that tests a PCs analysis of the postion

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 04:54:55 03/13/03

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On March 13, 2003 at 07:17:50, Cliff Sears wrote:

>Event "Warsaw m"]
>[Site "Warsaw"]
>[Date "1844.??.??"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Hoffman, Fr Alexander"]
>[Black "Petrov, Alexander"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[ECO "C54"]
>[PlyCount "46"]
>[EventDate "1844.??.??"]
>[Source "ChessBase"]
>[SourceDate "1998.11.10"]
>
>1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. c3 Nf6 5. d4 exd4 6. e5 Ne4 7. Bd5 Nxf2 8.
>Kxf2 dxc3+ 9. Kg3 cxb2 10. Bxb2 Ne7 11. Ng5 Nxd5 12. Nxf7 O-O 13. Nxd8 Bf2+ 14.
>Kh3 d6+ 15. e6 Nf4+ 16. Kg4 Nxe6 17. g3 Nd4+ 18. Ne6 Bxe6+ 19. Kh4 Nf5+ 20. Kh3
>Ne3+ 21. Kh4 Ng2+ 22. Kh5 g6+ 23. Kg5 Be3# 0-1
>
>This was a curious game by Hoffmann and Petroff in 1844 (source is 500 Master
>Games of Chess by Tartakower and J. Du Mont)
>
>Running 4 engines (Fritz  7, Shredder 5.32, Hiarcs 7.32. and Anaconda) on
>infinite analysis for about 24 hours, only Shredder found Black to be clearly
>ahead after move 12. (default settings)

I do not believe that they cannot find that black wins even in 24 hours.

I tried 2 engines only for some minutes:
They have no problem to see that black is clearly ahead in less than a minute
(more than 3 pawns advantage).


Fritz8.0.0.8

New game
r1bq1rk1/pppp1Npp/8/2bnP3/8/6K1/PB4PP/RN1Q3R w - - 0 1

Analysis by Fritz 8:

1.Nxd8 Bf2+ 2.Kh3
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 6/34   00:00:00  146kN
1.Nxd8 Bf2+ 2.Kh3
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 7/14   00:00:00  163kN
1.Nxd8 Bf2+ 2.Kh3 d6+ 3.e6 Nf4+ 4.Kg4 Nxe6 5.Nf7 Nd8+ 6.Kf4 Rxf7+ 7.Ke4 Bf5+
8.Kd5 Be6+ 9.Ke4 Bf5+
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 8/32   00:00:01  248kN
1.Nxd8 Bf2+ 2.Kh3 d6+ 3.e6 Nf4+ 4.Kg4 Nxe6 5.Nf7 Nd8+ 6.Kf4 Rxf7+ 7.Ke4 Bf5+
8.Kd5 Be6+ 9.Ke4 Bf5+
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 9/24   00:00:02  384kN
1.Nxd8--
  ³  (-0.28)   Depth: 10/30   00:00:03  787kN
1.Nxd8 Bf2+ 2.Kh3 Nf4+ 3.Kg4 d5+ 4.e6 Nxe6 5.g3 Nd4+ 6.Kg5 Nf3+ 7.Qxf3 Rxf3
8.Bc3 Be3+
  µ  (-1.00)   Depth: 10/36   00:00:04  1054kN
1.Nxd8 Bf2+ 2.Kh3 Nf4+ 3.Kg4 d5+ 4.e6 Nxe6 5.g3 Nd4+ 6.Kh4 Nf5+ 7.Kg5
  µ  (-0.94)   Depth: 11/34   00:00:08  2410kN
1.Nxd8--
  µ  (-1.22)   Depth: 12/36   00:00:17  5594kN
1.Nxd8 Bf2+ 2.Kh3 d6+ 3.e6 Nf4+ 4.Kg4 Nxe6 5.Nf7 Rxf7 6.g3 Nd4+ 7.Kh4 Nf3+
8.Qxf3 Rxf3 9.Nc3 Be6
  -+  (-3.69)   Depth: 12/40   00:00:33  11680kN
1.Nxd8--
  -+  (-3.97)   Depth: 13/36   00:01:25  31270kN
1.Nxd8 Bf2+ 2.Kh3 d6+ 3.e6 Nf4+ 4.Kg4 Nxe6 5.Nf7 Rxf7 6.g3 Nd4+ 7.Kg5 Rf5+ 8.Kh4
Rf4+ 9.Qg4
  -+  (-12.69)   Depth: 13/49   00:01:41  38070kN

(Blass, Tel-Aviv 13.03.2003)

Movei00_8


 1 682 3 51 f7d8
 2 596 3 193 f7d8 c5f2 g3h3 d5f4 h3g4 f4g2
 2 596 3 517 f7d8 c5f2 g3h3 d5f4 h3g4 f4g2
 3 519 4 1283 f7d8 c5f2 g3h3 d5f4 h3g4 d7d6 e5e6 f4e6
 3 519 4 2579 f7d8 c5f2 g3h3 d5f4 h3g4 d7d6 e5e6 f4e6
 4 488 5 4072 f7d8 c5f2 g3h3 d5f4 h3g4 d7d6 e5e6 c8e6 d8e6 f4e6
 4 488 6 6566 f7d8 c5f2 g3h3 d5f4 h3g4 d7d6 e5e6 c8e6 d8e6 f4e6
 5 423 11 15757 f7d8 c7c6 d1c2 d7d6 d8c6 b7c6 e5d6 c5d6 g3h4
 5 423 15 21569 f7d8 c7c6 d1c2 d7d6 d8c6 b7c6 e5d6 c5d6 g3h4
 6 423 23 38405 f7d8 c7c6 d1c2 d7d6 d8c6 b7c6 e5d6 c5d6 g3h4
 6 423 29 50369 f7d8 c7c6 d1c2 d7d6 d8c6 b7c6 e5d6 c5d6 g3h4
 7 184 69 133902 f7d8 c5f2 g3h3 d7d6 e5e6 d5f4 h3g4 f4e6 d8f7 e6c5 g4g5 c5e6 g5f
5 f8f7 f5e4
 7 184 93 182235 f7d8 c5f2 g3h3 d7d6 e5e6 d5f4 h3g4 f4e6 d8f7 e6c5 g4g5 c5e6 g5f
5 f8f7 f5e4
 8 149 134 274830 f7d8 c5f2 g3h3 d7d6 e5e6 d5f4 h3g4 f4e6 d8f7 f8f7 g2g3 c8d7
 8 149 195 413867 f7d8 c5f2 g3h3 d7d6 e5e6 d5f4 h3g4 f4e6 d8f7 f8f7 g2g3 c8d7
 9 -207 500 1115745 f7d8 c5f2 g3h3 d5f4 h3g4 d7d5 g4f3 f4g6 f3e2 c8g4 e2d2 g4d1
d8b7 d1g4 b1c3
 9 -207 1340 2861983 f7d8 c5f2 g3h3 d5f4 h3g4 d7d5 g4f3 f4g6 f3e2 c8g4 e2d2 g4d1
 d8b7 d1g4 b1c3
 10 -157 1754 3918894 f7d8 c5f2 g3h3 d5f4 h3g4 d7d5 g4f3 f4g6 f3e2 c8g4 e2d2 g4d
1 d8e6 d1g4 e6f8 a8f8 b1c3
 10 -157 2135 4739871 f7d8 c5f2 g3h3 d5f4 h3g4 d7d5 g4f3 f4g6 f3e2 c8g4 e2d2 g4d
1 d8e6 d1g4 e6f8 a8f8 b1c3
 11 -455 5968 13305218 f7d8 c5f2 g3h3 d7d6 e5e6 d5f4 h3g4 f4e6 d8f7 f8f7 g2g3 e6
d4 g4h4 d4f3 d1f3 f7f3 b1d2 f3f4 h4g5
 11 -455 21027 42683065 f7d8 c5f2 g3h3 d7d6 e5e6 d5f4 h3g4 f4e6 d8f7 f8f7 g2g3 e
6d4 g4h4 d4f3 d1f3 f7f3 b1d2 f3f4 h4g5

Uri



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