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Subject: Re: SSDF(Yace Paderborn - Ruffian 1.0.1)A1200, 1½-½, now 7-16

Author: Dieter Buerssner

Date: 12:30:31 03/13/03

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On March 13, 2003 at 15:22:33, Mogens Larsen wrote:

>On March 13, 2003 at 14:12:58, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>Ruffian seems to be much better than many other programs at learning.  I would
>>suggest looking at the actual games and see if Yace is being punished for a bad
>>line.
>
>Ruffian is used as an UCI engine, ie. no learning. But there has been at least a
>couple of poor opening variations chosen by Yace, which is almost impossible to
>avoid with an autogenerated book. Even so, a substantial Elo point advantage for
>Ruffian isn't that surprising IMHO.

Just before I wanted to send my answer to Dann, I saw your answer. So, the
answer to both. I didn't know, that Ruffian will not learn under UCI (does it
use his own book in the SSDF setup?). Anyway - I checked the openings. There
were only two games with similar openings (ECO E12). The first was lost by Yace,
the second drawn. So, there is no sign of "learning disadvantage", perhaps even
the contrary. I agree with your "a substantial Elo point advantage for Ruffian
isn't that surprising". But 8-0  (which I don't doubt) didn't look nice ...

Cheers,
Dieter




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